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Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond
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“Why you white men have so much cargo [i.e., steel tools and other products of civilization] and we New Guineans have so little?”
Jared Diamond is a biologist, who had a passion for studying birds, particularly the birds of New Guinea. But as he came to know and appreciate the many native people he met in his work, the question asked by a New Guinean named Yani remained with him. Why was it that westerners had so much relative to New Guinean natives, who had been living on that land for forty thousand years. Many found an explanation in racial exceptionalism. Diamond decided to find out. Was one group of people smarter than another? Why was there such dimorphism in the amount of cargo produced and toted by different groups?

The arguments he seeks to counter are those stating that since "civilization" came to full flower in the Eurasian countries and not in places where other races dominated, that this success indicated innate superiority. He offers a stunning analysis of why civilization emerged in the places in which it did.

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Jared Diamond – image from The Guardian

Guns figure large in why some societies were able dominate others, but the development of guns was not a universal. The materials necessary are not equally distributed over the planet, and there are technological prerequisites.

It turns out that not every locale is ideal for the emergence of farming. He offers some detail on why farming flourished in some areas more than in others. The importance of domesticated animals is considered. Diamond shows how it was possible for them to have been domesticated in some, but not all of the theoretically possible locations. He discusses the impact of germs, the immunity defense developed by more urban dwellers, and the harm those germs can cause when those urban dwellers come into contact with peoples who lack such immunities. Although "Steel" figures prominently in the title, and is significant in its use in weaponry, this aspect is given the lightest treatment in the book. Diamond closes with a plea for history to be redefined as History Science, claiming that, as with many other "historical" sciences, it holds the elements necessary to merit the "science" designation.

While I might have been happier if the title had been Guns, Germs, and Seeds, it remains a seminal look at the whys and wherefores of how some societies came to flourish, often at the expense of others. It has nothing to do with genes. Guns, Germs and Steel was awarded the Pulitzer Prize.


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Links to the author’s personal, Twitter and FB pages

An excellent National Geogrtaphic documentary was made of this book. Here is a link to the first of its three episodes.

Diamond's book Collapse, is also amazing.
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December 15, 2008 – Shelved
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Kalliope Now I see that I had put 4 stars only.. Thanks for reminding me about this book because I should correct now my rating to 5 stars.

Did you know that this book is one of the inspirations for David Mitchell's Cloud Atlas


message 2: by Will (last edited Jun 18, 2013 12:13AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes Kalliope wrote: "Now I see that I had put 4 stars only.. Thanks for reminding me about this book because I should correct now my rating to 5 stars.

Did you know that this book is one of the inspirations for David ..."


No, I did not know that, but will surely keep it in mind when I finally get around to reading it. Thanks for the nugget.


Jeffrey Keeten Loved this book!


Kalliope Will wrote: "Did you know that this book is one of the inspir..."

Nat Geographic produced a DVD based on this book with the author as presenter.


Will Byrnes I did know that. It is quite good.


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Cathy DuPont Will: On your "brain-candy" shelf? Just curious and yes, your review and the comments convinced me this is a "to-read" book. Nice read, friend, your review.


Will Byrnes I found the concepts in this book to be intellectual crack. He explains some really basic things so clearly that there is literally (for me anyway) a What-a-rush feeling. I almost wish I had read it more recently, and had put up a thorough review. This one will do, but it israther thin compared to what I crank out these days.


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Cathy DuPont Will wrote: "I found the concepts in this book to be intellectual crack. He explains some really basic things so clearly that there is literally (for me anyway) a What-a-rush feeling. I almost wish I had read ..."

Gotcha. It's clear now. Thanks.


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Lynne King I've just seen your review Will (I was on holiday when you wrote it) and this looks a fascinating book.


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Lilo Can't help it. Another TBR!


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Brit Cheung I think I have found a good book to establish a better keen social science mindset.Need to read something with analitical language and coolness. In order to neutralize the overwhelming sensitive and sentimental feelings presented in some poignant stories , I like to read this.


message 12: by Will (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes You won't be sorry. It is an amazing book.


Beverly I really enjoyed your review. You might like his book about why some societies fail, it was quite intriguing as well--Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed.


message 14: by Will (last edited Oct 06, 2017 08:09AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes Beverly wrote: "I really enjoyed your review. You might like his book about why some societies fail, it was quite intriguing as well--Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed."
Thanks. I might, indeed


message 15: by William (new)

William Not to mention, Greed is a contagious infection.


message 16: by Will (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes No known cure for that


Beverly Great review for a great book.


message 18: by Will (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes Thanks, Beverly


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Marvellous review. I remember an old History professor recommending this book ages ago and I had always wanted to read it.


message 20: by Will (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes Thanks, Chris. It is a classic, and well worth your time.


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Supratim Great review, Will! This book has been in my TBR for a long time. Let's see if I can manage to get a copy.


message 22: by Will (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes Thanks, Supratim. I expect the book remains widely available.


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Riddhika Khanna thanks for the review Will... :)


message 24: by Will (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes Thank you, Ridhika. This is an amazing book, well worth your time.


Simon Robs You're a polished write-up man, Will, good reading all through. Diamond's book limns history and makes plausible causal effects - but it may be we now have a mass murderer with unknown motive. They're looking in the wrong places for answers. Well, anyway, keep reading/writing. Peace!


message 26: by Will (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes Thanks, Simon


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Ina Cawl this question really made me laugh a lot since where i live was in horn of Africa was were modern Homo Sapiens came into being and even in my country the only link we have to that era is 11 thousand years drawing in a cave


message 28: by Will (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes I am sure links have gone missing all over the place


Meghan Smith One of the things I didn’t quite catch was how does civilization lead to epidemics? Can someone please help?


message 30: by Will (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes Don't recall if it was in the book, but it is certainly the case that when many people live in close quarters, the likelihood of disease being transmitted en mass would increase dramatically.


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Brieane  jemison I want to read but it looks really scarry.😦😨😱😰😩😧


message 32: by Will (last edited Jul 27, 2018 09:03PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes The benefit of learning something new should overwhelm any fears you might have.


Meghan Smith For that quote you used in the beginning of your review, what were other commonly espoused answers to Yalis question and I can’t remember how Jared Diamond addressed and refuted each of them. I have a test on this soon and this is one of the recommended questions to study and I can’t recall this part


message 34: by Will (last edited Aug 01, 2018 09:08PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes I read this book many years ago, so cannot recall the specifics, and the book is nicely tucked away in a box in a storage unit so i cannot access it to offer you a specific answer. I am not sure there actually was an answer. But it was the question that sparked his look into the larger question of just why it was that there was such a diversity of development levels in different parts of the world. Maybe take a run to your local library or bookstore for a personal look-see.


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message 36: by Will (last edited Aug 07, 2018 09:03PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes huh?


message 37: by Zak (new) - rated it 2 stars

Zak Boston No points made in this book were new. Guns were barely a contributing factor in the book’s analysis and the title only leads with that words for sensationalism. Jared Diamond is clearly (one could argue even deliberately) unscientific. Even if history could be made historical science, he should be banished from the start. This book is an exercise in winning awards through making pithy arguments that start with popular conclusions. You have the proverbial wool over your eyes.


message 38: by Will (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes And I thought it was just that I needed to seriously trim my eyebrows.


Nagia:') ;")Be BeAutiful and HaPpy ;) Hi Will
Please follow Nagia
Lovely review


message 40: by Will (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes Thanks, Nagia


Swiderek HAVE YOU MANY


message 42: by Will (last edited Feb 06, 2020 09:30PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes No idea what you mean, Swiderek. Care to expand?


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Jamestaylor JM


message 44: by Will (last edited Feb 12, 2020 09:28PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes Care to expand on that, James


Colleen Browne I have gone back and forth about whether to read this book as some people have not been kind in their review but your review has decided the issue for me. I am putting this on my list. Thanks Will.


message 46: by Will (last edited Feb 14, 2020 09:05PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes Hoping you go forth. This is one of my all time faves.


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Jennifer Vo Started this a while back, and only got 1/3 of the way through (not due to the book, but because of time/personal reasons). It's a highly engrossing piece, thanks for the reminder to go back and finish it!


message 48: by Will (last edited Sep 18, 2021 12:04AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes You will not be sorry


message 49: by Sonia (new) - added it

Sonia A friend gave me this book awhile ago. Thanks for the push.


message 50: by Will (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Byrnes It is an eye-opening read. You will be glad you read it.


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