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The Fireman by Joe Hill
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it was ok
bookshelves: 2016, apocalypse-now, germs-viruses, horror, damn-dirty-hippies, spooky-powers

Well, that was a spoonful of nonsense.

It had a promising start with the outbreak of a disease known as Dragonscale which first manifests as dark marks on the skin. Getting a free tribal tattoo might not sound that bad, but the real problem is that eventually infected people burst into flames and burn to death. The damage caused by walking blowtorches and the fear of being infected have society teetering on the brink of collapse.

Harper is a young nurse who discovers that she has contracted Dragonscale and she’s pregnant. If that isn’t bad enough her jerk-face husband Jakob goes coocoo for Coco-Puffs and thinks they should just kill themselves. During a desperate moment Harper finds help in the form of a mysterious guy dressed as a fireman who leads her to a hidden community of infected people who have found a way to survive the disease. Unfortunately, discord within that group proves as dangerous as the vigilante Cremation Squads that have started murdering the infected.

It’s a strong premise, but unfortunately there’s a number of factors that drag it down. First and foremost is that it’s way too long. Hill can’t seem to commit to one main story, and he keeps adding on to it like a late-night TV commercial promising, “But that’s not all!” This causes a lot of drift with a long swath of the book not even touching on what’s going on in the outside world and forgetting what should be major characters for long periods of time. It’s also like one of those action movies that never seems to know when to end that goes on 20 minutes past the point where it should have wrapped things up.

I also wasn’t a fan of Harper, and since this whole story is built on the idea of a plucky heroine trying to survive a civilization ending plague then I needed to have at least have some respect for her. Unfortunately, she comes across as twit who never seems to wise up until something terrible happens. Which it does. Repeatedly. I lost count of the number of times where she is shocked by the bad intentions of someone and says things like, “You can’t!” It’s the apocalype, lady. They can, and they will. Her infatuation with Mary Poppins, and Hill’s constant use of it and its songs are also way overdone.

In fact, there’s just too much goddamn music in this book overall with constant quoting of lyrics and talking about various musicians. It's a crutch Hill leans on far too often. Plus, it’s all Jurassic Rock with a smattering of ‘80s pop in there with even an old VJ from MTV having a role to play. It’s 2016, Joe Hill. I don’t need your main character, who is supposedly in her early twenties, lecturing me on what the preference for the Rolling Stones or the Beatles says about a person.

Another piece that flies off this jalopy of a book once it gets up to speed is the nature of the disease itself. There’s a lot of effort spent to convince us that there is a rational scientific reason that people would turn into Zippos, and I can suspend disbelief enough to go with that concept. But when more and more is added to the point where we’re into ideas like people being able to generate and control fire without their clothes burning and even more weirdness then you don’t need Neal deGrasse Tyson to call bullshit on it. Just as he couldn’t seem to commit to one story or another Hill can’t seem to decide if he wanted a more grounded concept with some science behind it or if he wanted to jump full-on into the supernatural pool.

Hill also opted to run home to Daddy in this because the entire book is absolutely rotten with Easter eggs of Stephen King’s work. A few references can be fun, but when Hill essentially ‘borrows’ a character from The Stand including a cute little name trick to underline it then it’s crossed the line. (Harold Cross? For a character who is essentially Harold Lauder? That's weak.*) After a while it started to seem desperate, as if Hill knew things weren’t going well and hoped he might use fan familiarity of his father's books to invoke some of his magic. Hill also seems to have inherited his father’s trait of having a bunch of characters claim that they’re are critically short of time only to have them waste most of it with idle chit-chat and banter that is supposed to be funny and make you like the characters. It’s not, and it doesn’t.

So at this point Hill is 2 for 4 with me, and after this I’m going to need a really good reason to pick up his next one.

* And I didn't think about this until I read Edward Lorn's review where he pointed out that there's also a deaf character named Nick. Come on, Joe Hill. You're better than that.
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Frank Deschain I'm glad someone else feels this way. Hopefully he'll get back on his game after this.


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Trudi Oh nooooo. And I BOUGHT this one >.<


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Matt Quann Shit. You and a few other reviewers I trust have lambasted this one. Unfortunately, I received a copy for my birthday, so I'll have to get to it eventually.


Kemper I'm being kind of grumpy and nitpicky about this one because there is a decent core story, and Joe Hill is, as usual, very readable. But just like he seemed to lose the thread in Horns, he really just seems to be ping ponging through this story, and he needs to lay off the nods to Dad.


message 5: by Stephen (last edited Jul 29, 2016 07:54AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Stephen I too am glad to read a review that agrees with my own one. Started off with high hopes as it reminded me of "The Stand" which I love but it was all a bit of a disappointment in the end. Did give it 3 stars and it is very readable though.


message 6: by Kemper (last edited Jul 29, 2016 05:55AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Kemper Stephen wrote: "I too am glad to read a review that agrees with my own one. Started off with high hopes as it reminded me of "The Stand" which I love but it was all a bit of a disappointment in the end, Did give i..."

I was hovering between 2 or 3 stars but the ending knocked it down a notch.


message 7: by Kemper (last edited Jul 29, 2016 06:10AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Kemper Mark wrote: "Interesting point about the lyrics throughout. Very much reminds me of Christine and the lyrics at the start of the chapters - a lot of AC/DC if I remember rightly"

Yeah, King has always threaded a lot of rock through his books which is another way that this seemed really derivative to me. This whole book seemed like Hill was trying to tell people "If you love my dad's work then you'll love me! See, our books are practically identical!"


message 8: by Melki (new)

Melki Whew! You made me glad I left this one where it was on the shelf at the library.


message 9: by Mike (new)

Mike Impressive and objective breakdown of this one, Kemper.


message 10: by Chuck (new)

Chuck White Thanks for another great review. You've saved me wasting precious time reading this one. Big SK fan, but I have enough of his books to read, without adding imitators.

You say Hill is 2 for 4, in your eyes, what books of his do you recommend?

Thanks.


Kemper Melki wrote: "Whew! You made me glad I left this one where it was on the shelf at the library."

Sadly, I wasted an Audible credit on it.


Kemper Mike wrote: "Impressive and objective breakdown of this one, Kemper."

Thanks!


message 13: by Kemper (last edited Jul 29, 2016 10:55AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Kemper Chuck wrote: "You say Hill is 2 for 4, in your eyes, what books of his do you recommend? ..."

I really liked his last one NOS4A2, and it's been several years since I read it but I enjoyed Heart-Shaped Box. The other one I thought was so-so was Horns.


message 14: by Tony (new)

Tony Vacation Man, those Stephen King nods sound awful. You'd think Joe would want to distance himself more from his father as a writer.


message 15: by Ɗẳɳ 2.☊ (new)

Ɗẳɳ  2.☊ So a poor mans version of The Stand. No thank you.

Great review, Kemper.


message 16: by Kemper (last edited Jul 29, 2016 11:36AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Kemper Anthony wrote: "Man, those Stephen King nods sound awful. You'd think Joe would want to distance himself more from his father as a writer."

You'd think so. Especially since he went to all the trouble of making up a fake last name.


Kemper Ɗắɳ 2.☠ wrote: "So a poor mans version of The Stand. No thank you.

Great review, Kemper."


It's like The Stand told from Frannie's point of view if she got some of those drugs from Firestarter.


message 18: by Ɗẳɳ 2.☊ (new)

Ɗẳɳ  2.☊ Ugh. I wish he'd just follow his own path than continue to drop Easter eggs to dear old dad.


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Chuck White Kemper wrote: "Chuck wrote: "You say Hill is 2 for 4, in your eyes, what books of his do you recommend? ..."

I really liked his last one NOS4A2, and it's been several years since I read it but I ..."


Thank you, sir.


message 20: by Jake (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jake Will be the last time I read a book in which I purchase it based on hype (likely bought and paid for by the publisher) before checking out at least a few Goodreads reviews. I liked it maybe a tad more than you did but it felt like a waste of time to read it. I was on vacation and in my downtime, had nothing better to do. Otherwise, I probably would've quit it.


message 21: by Keith (new)

Keith Maybe it's just me but if he's willing to write like this maybe he should keep his first name and take dad's last name.
It'd maybe make you laugh as you read his work??


message 22: by Kemper (last edited Dec 30, 2016 06:29AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Kemper Jake wrote: "Will be the last time I read a book in which I purchase it based on hype (likely bought and paid for by the publisher) before checking out at least a few Goodreads reviews. I liked it maybe a tad m..."

There was a lot of times while listening to the audio book of this that I found myself wandering over to Spotify or various podcasts instead because it was so tedious.


Kemper Keith**BookReviewing24/7** wrote: "Maybe it's just me but if he's willing to write like this maybe he should keep his first name and take dad's last name.
It'd maybe make you laugh as you read his work??"


As I understand it he used the Hill name just to set himself apart from dear ole dad although everyone knew from the start that he was King's son. Considering how much the of the old man's work he dragged into his one I'm not sure why he even bothered.


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Brian M Damn, I was really looking forward to picking this up after all the buzz. I really like Stephen King even if he can be less than stellar, he can be very readable without being boring - I thought maybe that was a genetic trait. The premise you wrote in the beginning sounds super interesting so I still may give it a go in the future. Your reviews are usually well thought out enough that I think I'll avoid this one for fear of hating the main character.

Looks like I'll just start The Stand.

Thanks for the review, even if it is a bit sour.


message 25: by Kemper (last edited Jul 30, 2016 02:55PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Kemper Brian wrote: "Thanks for the review, even if it is a bit sour.
.."


You expect bitter disappointment to be sweet like a spoonful of sugar?


Haselrig Your review sums it up nicely for me. Not something I thought I would ever write: too much Mary Poppins clashes with an apocalypse. The whole novel is a weirdly forceful welding of tastes, but I think that's the biggy.


Brandon Kemper wrote: "I'm being kind of grumpy and nitpicky about this one because there is a decent core story.."

I struggled with that big time. I had a review typed up kind of calling him out for The Stand comparisons, but I thought I was being too picky and focused on the positive things I liked. I have to lose that little voice in my head that tells me "don't be so critical".

Great review sir. You nailed a lot of the issues.


Kemper Brandon wrote: "but I thought I was being too picky and focused on the positive things I liked. I have to lose that little voice in my head that tells me "don't be so critical" ..."

That's just your Canadian nature preventing you from being as mean and hateful as me.


message 29: by Ɗẳɳ 2.☊ (new)

Ɗẳɳ  2.☊ All that Serenity Now philosophy will one day backfire on our Canadian friends. Let the hate flow, Brandon, before it's too late.


Matthew Great review - pretty much echos my feelings exactly!


Gmaharriet And I thought my review with the comparison to The Stand was so original. I'm sorry. I didn't copy yours. BTW, Harold Cross not only used Harold Lauder's first name, but also Nadine Cross's surname. I didn't notice Nick's name while reading or the deaf boy similarity. I wonder how many others we could find if we were looking for them.


Stephanie *Eff your feelings* Kemper wrote: "Melki wrote: "Whew! You made me glad I left this one where it was on the shelf at the library."

Sadly, I wasted an Audible credit on it."


You can always return it.


message 33: by Jess (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jess I must say.. very nice review. I was more generous with my stars but I can say I can see where you are coming from with every one of your points. I think I upped my rating because a lot of people I discussed with book with pointed some merits I hadn't noticed. Well written review!


Kemper Thanks!


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Rasheeda I am listening to it on audio and I am about to give it up 5 CDs in. Harper is just dingbat and her tolerance of her husband was just ridiculous. It feels like I'm reading a knock off of The Stand and Im sure the Man In Black will make an appearance.


message 36: by Lata (new) - rated it 1 star

Lata I've only just started this book today and I'm already uncomfortable with Harper. I don't think I have it in me to get through the whole thing, especially since it's so similar to The Stand, which, by the way, I never finished.


Heather This isn't just The Stand stuff. What about the fact this book is a lot like Firestarter too? I felt like this was just a huge unnecessary copy of Daddy's work. I'll be hard pressed to read another Hill book


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Kristen I'm listening to this as an audiobook (from the library) and I just can't take any more of Jacob, or Harper, for that matter. I get it: Jacob is a controlling narcissistic abusive asshole, and in Harper he found the perfect victim. I just don't think I can wait/listen any longer hoping she'll ditch her spineless victim status and start kicking ass. Does that ever actually happen? I wonder, reading your review. (Which was marvelous, btw.)


Jacob Miles Harper also reminds me in many ways of Frannie From the stand.


message 40: by Gayle (new)

Gayle Love your review. Made me laugh out loud. But in all seriousness, how disappointing about this book. I've enjoyed Hill in the past. This time however, Fireman won't be on my 'to read' list.
Thanks, I respect your opinions a lot.


Kemper Heather wrote: "This isn't just The Stand stuff. What about the fact this book is a lot like Firestarter too? I felt like this was just a huge unnecessary copy of Daddy's work. I'll be hard pressed to read another..."

See comment # 18.


Kemper Jacob wrote: "Harper also reminds me in many ways of Frannie From the stand."

See comment #18.


Kemper Kristen wrote: "I'm listening to this as an audiobook (from the library) and I just can't take any more of Jacob, or Harper, for that matter. I get it: Jacob is a controlling narcissistic abusive asshole, and in H..."

Harper is kind of a spineless idiot for a good chunk of the book.


Kemper Gayle wrote: "Love your review. Made me laugh out loud. But in all seriousness, how disappointing about this book. I've enjoyed Hill in the past. This time however, Fireman won't be on my 'to read' list.
Thanks..."


Thanks!


Kristina Coop-a-Loop Great review. Thank you for calling out the Mary Poppins nonsense. I hated this book so much I almost set myself on fire while writing my nasty review.


Gianluca Melino You totally got the point!!!


Justin Esperum I was going to write a review but yours pretty much explained my views far better than I could.


message 48: by M (new) - rated it 3 stars

M Nozz-a-la.


message 49: by Meg (new) - rated it 2 stars

Meg I enjoyed your review far more than I enjoyed the book.


message 50: by Susan (new)

Susan Your review made me laugh out loud several times. I remember reading an excerpt on Amazon but it left a lot to be desired. And Jakob was an insensitive selfish asshat.


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