Brian Alexander 11:39 pm on January 31, 2024
Tags: 6-4 ( 78 ), 6-5 ( 76 ), core ( 587 ), core-editor ( 714 ), dev chat ( 742 ), meeting ( 380 ), summary

Dev Chat Summary, January 31, 2024

Start of meeting on Slack

This Dev Chat continues the experiment to focus chat time on discussions related to open CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. proposals and release issues, rather than repeating links already highlighted in the curated agendas.

Please read the Dev Chat Agenda for a curated list of announcements, discussions, highlighted posts, core-editor updates, major and minor release updates, and more.

Announcements

Following announcement of yesterday’s 6.4.3 release, @jorbin noted that there was one issue of note, but that there were workarounds available at this time. @jorbin further gave props to those who helped facilitate the release.

@hellofromtonya shared that @joemcgill has accepted his nomination to serve as a 2024 Core team rep 🎉. The search continues for a co-rep, where it’s been noted that a contributor from the Core Editor team would be a great compliment, though not required. Nominations remain open until April 1, 00:00 UTC.

Discussion on open proposals in Core

Field GuideField guide The field guide is a type of blogpost published on Make/Core during the release candidate phase of the WordPress release cycle. The field guide generally lists all the dev notes published during the beta cycle. This guide is linked in the about page of the corresponding version of WordPress, in the release post and in the HelpHub version page. Publish Date

Link to post: Proposal: An update to the Field Guide

Conversation start link

Comments:

@jorbin was under the impression that neither the dev blogblog (versus network, site) team nor 6.4 release leads were interested in moving forward with the proposal. @webcommsat shared that 6.4 docs release leads didn’t see 6.4 as the deadline, and discussions were continuing. @joemcgill agreed that the proposal wasn’t release specific, but rather an adjustment to timing of when field guide information is released. @hellofromtonya also added that the dev blog team has opened a discussion to track the second part of the proposal.
@jeffpaul referred to @chanthaboune‘s comment of where best to separate field guide content based on audiences, suggesting the proposal could be adjusted accordingly. @jeffpaul added that some folks have difficulty processing field guide information to determine what is relevant and actionable, which @hellofromtonya agreed should be explored. @webcommsat agreed with the notion to target field guide content to particular audiences, but also to look at how it relates to other new content produced for the release.
@jeffpaul suggested the potential to target content according to the five user groups identified in Care and influence: a theory about the WordPress community.
@ironprogrammer asked if the field guide info would be more easily consumable if it was split into a canonical structure, such as wordpress.org/6-5/field-guide/, with subpages that match particular areas or audiences.
@webcommsat noted that segmentation between audiences has grown, and suggested it’s a good time to use teams’ audience-specific insights to improve the field guide format. She added that exploring how best to utilize the limited people and time for the Docs team would be an important factor in implementing improvements. @jeffpaul agreed with concerns around challenges in gathering/publishing content, but noted that the issue should be considered as separate from the proposal.
@jorbin shared that the original published field guide was the result of an overly long email sent to pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party developers.
First-time Docs Co-Lead @estelaris 🎉 asked about adding additional comments to the proposal. @jorbin noted that Make/Core comments close automatically after 180 days (~6 months). @costdev shared that adding the #keep-comments-open tagtag A directory in Subversion. WordPress uses tags to store a single snapshot of a version (3.6, 3.6.1, etc.), the common convention of tags in version control systems. (Not to be confused with post tags.) would reenable them, but recommended removing the tag once an updated timeframe for feedback has been reached. @jorbin updated the Core handbook to reflect this info.
@joemcgill pointed out that the team should review all current channels where field guide-related content is published, to check whether only updating the field guide [in one place] would sufficiently improve the broader sharing of release updates to the community. He suggested engaging with the Docs and Marketing teams to move forward, and @estelaris noted she would begin by sharing with Docs. @webcommsat suggested looping in Training as well. @laurlittle noted that the Marketing team could brainstorm on the proposal for future releases, if not 6.5.
In response to @joemcgill, @webcommsat noted that there have been past lists of channels and audiences, and suspects more current info should be available. She also suggested it might be helpful to have a single post that links out to the various user groups identified earlier, and to link to that post from the About page.
@jorbin referred back to @jeffpaul‘s input and asserted that the dev blog and other team areas might be better places to communicate field guide information, as opposed to Make/Core. @hellofromtonya asked if, considering this perspective, the proposal was actionable by the Core team, or if the proposal should be re-worked as a cross-team collaboration. @jorbin suggested that the teams publishing the field guide info would take on the proposal.
@joemcgill noted that it can be difficult to know the status of a proposal, suggesting some way of flagging these posts. @marybaum suggested a visual system to convey “stalled”, “live”, etc, and @joemcgill raised the idea of a blockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience. pattern. @desrosj shared that in past proposals (example) he has added status info to the top of the post, assuming the status was clear.
@hellofromtonya wrapped up the discussion based on the chat, concluding that the proposal be marked closed (“not accepted”), or must be picked up by another team(s).

Actions:

Part 1: Move Make/Core field guide publication ahead one week, aligning with last scheduled betaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process., rather than RC1. Not accepted ❌
Part 2: Start publishing a simplified field guide to the WordPress Developer Blog. Not accepted ❌
Other teams to explore revising and adopting this proposal:
- @estelaris to share the proposal with Docs.
- @laurlittle to raise the proposal to Marketing for possible brainstorm.
- @webcommsat to loopLoop The Loop is PHP code used by WordPress to display posts. Using The Loop, WordPress processes each post to be displayed on the current page, and formats it according to how it matches specified criteria within The Loop tags. Any HTML or PHP code in the Loop will be processed on each post. https://codex.wordpress.org/The_Loop. in Training to gauge their interest in furthering the proposal.
- To highlight in dev blog.

Open Floor

@hellofromtonya reminded everyone that 6.5 Beta 1 is approaching fast: February 13 (less than two weeks).
@ironprogrammer asked for more code reviews and testing of a major 6.5 feature, the Font Library, with @hellofromtonya noting that reviews/issues should be tracked in the Gutenberg repo. She also shared that several contributors are working to smooth the merge process ahead of expected merge patches to Core.

Props @hellofromtonya for peer review.

#6-4, #6-5, #core, #core-editor, #dev-chat, #meeting, #summary

Brian Alexander 9:46 pm on January 25, 2024
Tags: 6-4 ( 78 ), 6-5 ( 76 ), core ( 587 ), core-editor ( 714 ), dev chat ( 742 ), meeting ( 380 ), summary

Dev Chat Summary, January 24, 2024

Start of meeting on Slack facilitated by @webcommsat

This DevChat starts with an experiment to shift the chat to synchronize discussions on open coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. proposals and release issues rather than reproducing links highlighted in the curated agendas.

Please read the DevChat Agenda for a curated list of discussions, highlighted posts, core-editor updates, major and minor release updates, and more.

Discussion on open proposals in Core

Interactivity APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways.

Link to post: Proposal: The Interactivity API – A better developer experience in building interactive blocks

Conversation start link

Comments:

The API is well beyond the proposal stage, with nothing actionable in discussion.

Actions:

The proposal should be considered “accepted”.

HTMLHTML HyperText Markup Language. The semantic scripting language primarily used for outputting content in web browsers. API: Introduce `WP_HTML::tag()` for safely creating HTML

Link to PR (draft): https://github.com/WordPress/wordpress-develop/pull/5884

Conversation start link

Comments:

This PR was raised along with the question of how items should be added to the agenda. It was clarified that topics can be added as comments to the previous week’s chat summary, or to the current week’s agenda post (typically published on Tuesdays). And of course, any item can be raised during the open floor section of Dev Chat.
@dmsnell indicated that the PR for consideration is a scaled back version of a larger templating system proposal, which will not be ready for 6.5. The PR adds a helper utility, WP_HTML::tag(), to conveniently generate single HTML tags with attributes. The impetus for this feature is to provide Core and extenders a safer way to generate HTML tags, compared with reliance on proper usage of functions such as esc_attr(), which might be overlooked and introduce HTML injection vectors.
@jorbin would prefer that any new APIs be used by Core itself, and that there be accessory patches prepared that demonstrate how the function integrates and operates in Core. It was also suggested that a Make/Core proposal would help with gathering broader input.
@azaozz pointed out that enhancementenhancement Enhancements are simple improvements to WordPress, such as the addition of a hook, a new feature, or an improvement to an existing feature. tickets in TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. are another form of “proposal”, and can also result in healthy discussion. He suggested starting the discussion in Trac, and then utilizing a Make/Core proposal if the ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. isn’t sufficient to establish consensus.
There continued discussion around how Core generates HTML currently, which relies on proper use of esc_*() and echo(), as well as a broader discussion around safely generating HTML. Got feedback? Join the conversation in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/., or leave a comment below.

Actions:

@dmsnell to create a Trac ticket and/or Make/Core proposal to discuss introduction of WP_HTML::tag().
@dmsnell to consider a future Make/Core proposal for the HTML API templating system, and continued discussion around generating safe HTML.

Forthcoming releases

6.4.3

Conversation start link

@jorbin shared the remaining open tickets for this milestone, which are scheduled for review and commit prior to a Thursday (Jan 25) RCrelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta).:
- #60025 – This needs additional review and testing. Any help is appreciated
- #59866 – @peterwilsoncc and I have been work on the one and I should have an update in the next 12 hours.
@joemcgill requested help reviewing the approach proposed in #5926 Cache locate template paths, which would address both #60025 and #60290.

6.5

Conversation start link

See this section in the agenda for updates, helpful links, and information for the 6.5 release.

Comments:

@oglekler pointed out that there are several early 6.5 tickets that need attention, asking for review as some might have the potential to be completed in time for BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process..
@hellofromtonya indicated that the 6.5 cycle is past the “early part of alpha”, suggesting these may need to be punted if they truly require a long runway for soak time and discussion.
@azaozz agreed that the early keyword indicates a need for comprehensive testing, and possible reconsideration of the milestone if the testing hasn’t occurred. He also suggested that while not required, it might be preferable to fix old/known bugs during alpha, and allow beta testers to focus on “new” bugs introduced from Beta 1 and onward.
@jorbin suggested two interpretations of early; i.e. actually early in the alpha cycle, or just before Beta 1.
@hellofromtonya noted that since Beta 1 is the puntpunt Contributors sometimes use the verb "punt" when talking about a ticket. This means it is being pushed out to a future release. This typically occurs for lower priority tickets near the end of the release cycle that don't "make the cut." In this is colloquial usage of the word, it means to delay or equivocate. (It also describes a play in American football where a team essentially passes up on an opportunity, hoping to put themselves in a better position later to try again.) milestone for enhancements/features, that in her perspective, early should apply to early in the alpha cycle. She cited changes to WP_Query as an example where early would apply.
@afragen observed that it doesn’t seem that many early tickets are committed early in the cycle.

Open Floor

@afragen highlighted #59448: is_wp_version_compatible works unreliably for additional review/attention.
@swissspidy shared that #59656: Merge Performant Translations (Ginger MO) (changeset 57337) has just been committed to trunk. @azaozz asked if it could be highlighted in non-English sites/forums, and @swissspidy noted that it should be a pinned post topic during beta, and would raise it in the #polyglots channel. @webcommsat also suggested referencing this update in the next polyglot newsletter.
In order to expand topics in the Contributor Mentorship Program, @oglekler invited Core contributorsCore Contributors Core contributors are those who have worked on a release of WordPress, by creating the functions or finding and patching bugs. These contributions are done through Trac. https://core.trac.wordpress.org. to share interesting and important ideas, tickets, and issues related to Core over in the #contributor-mentorship channel or via DM.

Props @hellofromTonya for peer review.

#6-4, #6-5, #core, #core-editor, #dev-chat, #meeting, #summary

Abha Thakor 9:49 pm on January 22, 2024
Tags: 6-4 ( 78 ), 6-5 ( 76 ), core ( 587 ), core-editor ( 714 ), dev chat ( 742 ), meeting ( 380 ), summary

Dev Chat summary, January 17, 2024

Start of meeting on Slack

This DevChat starts with an experiment to shift the chat to synchronize discussions and away from dropping of links.

Please read the DevChat Agenda for a curated list of announcements, highlighted posts, Core Editor updates, major and minor release updates, and more.

Discussion on open proposals in coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress.

Default Theme Task Force for 2024

Link to the post: Proposal: Default Theme Task Force for 2024

Dev Chat slack link

Comments in Dev Chat focused:

positive feedback and highlighting that people can self-nominate their ability to help triagetriage The act of evaluating and sorting bug reports, in order to decide priority, severity, and other factors. those open default theme issues
promote the call to encourage people to be active in triaging and resolving those 436 Bundled Theme tickets

Latest position from @desrosj :

advised the idea has been accepted: t’s rallying a group of folks to get through and clean out the Bundled Theme component backlog on TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress.
three self nominations and more expected to be confirmed by end of the week
aim to start before the end of January 2024, currently 437 tickets in the Bundled Theme component
Jonathan will be leading the team as a mentor and someone with commit privileges, and other committers are welcome to help as well)
the week to week working arrangement will be depends on the team’s availability. Stay tuned!
confirmed the new theme task force group will remain under core team purview. More detail on this in the comments section of the post. More contributors for the Themes team welcome to help out too. “It’s a balance though, My goal here was to allow those contributors to continue exploring what new themes look like while this team handles cleaning up some of our cruft and backlog for pre-existing ones.”
expecting ‘as a side effect, cleaning out the backlog also will effectively “retire” these themes in some ways, and going forward, the majority of the tickets will be blockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience. editor support related (hopefully).’

Actions:

more volunteers needed and will increase the speed can go through the outstanding tickets in the component
to assist, contact @desrosj on SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. on in the comments for the post itself

Proposal to improve the editor tech workflow for major releases

Post link: Proposal

Dev Chat Slack link

Context: This proposal was started in 6.4. With 6.5 underway, thinking the learnings from 6.4 could be built upon for how to continue improving the Core merges from GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ during 6.5. Core Editor and Core chats are now combined into Dev Chat as an experiment.

Discussion:

@joemcgill raised the question of the right venue to push this forward. “In my opinion, the current status quo is error prone and unsustainable (as well as taking a lot of manual overhead from contributors).”
@jorbin: If we want to try early syncing for 6.4.3, https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/59828 just needs a second committers review and we can get all the updates into the 6.4.x nightly
@hellofromtonya: I’m not sure either what the “right venue for pushing this forward” is. Needs a discussion with both Core and Core Editor folks to figure out the needs and how to improve these workflows. Seems earlier the better as BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 1 is fast approaching
@jorbin suggested one way to mitigate the issue would be nominating the release team, or at least the editor tech, for the next release before the current release ships. An interim editor tech to help get the ball rolling while an official team has not been announced. @joemcgill agreed having an identified set of release leads for 6.5 to discuss how they want to handle things for this release would help. The Community Summit conversation was very helpful. A working group to continue that conversation and come back with concrete proposals would be helpful, if a release team is not the right venue. A working group had positive feedback in the dev chat discussions as these workflows are continuously improving and span more than one major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.. @jorbin suggested @tellthemachines should be given right of first refusal to continue leading the effort since she kicked off the proposal.
Ideas included: a proposal needed to address the identified set of problems, a hallway hangout similar to the ones @annezazu and others have done.

Actions:

Wait for response from @isabel_brison about leading the working group. Done ✅ After DevChat, Isabel responded and is interested in leading the working group.
Make/Core post for plans and to form a working group, along with an actionable list of tasks to tackle.

Forthcoming releases

6.5

Slack discussion link

See this section in the agenda for updates, helpful links, and information for the 6.5 release.

Blockages/ items need discussion for progress:

Font Library:
- Discussion:
  - As a follow-up from @joemcgill‘s questions last week, @hellofromtonya has added the Core merge criteria/expectations to its Trac ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker.. The critieria is the same as in 6.4, except Tonya is suggesting returning to the expectation the feature is merged before or by Beta 1.
  - Query raised on the criteria aspect of “running on wp.com, and not being reliant on any specific host testing this. @hellofromtonya: The reason for wp.com is: it’s a normal workflow in Gutenberg as it gains a huge amount of sites running it. @jorbin
  - @annezazu suggested some of the contributors who have worked on this feature could comment. Also noted current timeline for the feature https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/59166#comment:21
  - Question: Is this anything beyond what we’d normally expect of a feature pluginFeature Plugin A plugin that was created with the intention of eventually being proposed for inclusion in WordPress Core. See Features as Plugins.? @hellofromtonya: Same expectations except for REST APIREST API The REST API is an acronym for the RESTful Application Program Interface (API) that uses HTTP requests to GET, PUT, POST and DELETE data. It is how the front end of an application (think “phone app” or “website”) can communicate with the data store (think “database” or “file system”) https://developer.wordpress.org/rest-api/. part of it , as I’m suggesting a maintainer needs to give a thumbs-up to its design.
  - jorbim: I don’t want to discourage that in any way, I just wonder if we would ever set a requirement like “Is running on Altis with no major issues”
- Actions:
  - Update the criteria from the discussion. Done ✅
  - Gather expectations from the REST API maintainers and then update the criteria accordingly. Done ✅

How was the first experimental new DevChat?

@jorbin said: “I think one of the most productive meetings in a while”

@afragen shared there was no extra time to raise other tickets for discussion.

What to change?

Next week, reserve 10-15 minutes for open forum / floor discussion.

Props @hellofromTonya for peer review.

#6-4, #6-5, #core, #core-editor, #dev-chat, #meeting, #summary

Tonya Mork 8:03 pm on January 16, 2024
Tags: 6-4 ( 78 ), 6-5 ( 76 ), core ( 587 ), core-editor ( 714 ), dev chat ( 742 ), meeting ( 380 ), summary

Dev Chat Summary, January 10, 2024

The WordPress Developers Chat meeting took place on 10 January 2024 at 20:00 UTC in core on Make WordPress Slack.

Key info

Start of the DevChat on SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/., hosted by @hellofromtonya.
Today’s DevChat Agenda was prepared by @webcommsat.

Please read the DevChat Agenda for a curated list of announcements, highlighted posts, Core Editor updates, major and minor release updates, and more.

Chat Summary

Nominations for 2024 Core Team Reps:

Status: no accepted or new nominations.
Nomination period will be extended.
@webcommsat and I will continue until new reps are elected.
@audrasjb suggested: “current team reps nominations can also be considered”.

@desrosj reminded Gutenberg and Core development contributors to update their local Node.js/npm as:

.. the versions of Node.js and npm required for WordPress CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. development are now 20.x and 10.x.

In order to continue contributing to WordPress through wordpress-develop or WordPress/Gutenberg, you’ll need to upgrade the version of Node.js installed on your machine to one that’s greater than or equal to 20.10.0 (currently the most recent generally available version 20.x version). This should also update npm to the correct, expected version appropriately (10.2.3 or higher is required).

Release Updates

Next minor releaseMinor Release A set of releases or versions having the same minor version number may be collectively referred to as .x , for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.3, and all other versions in the 5.2 (five dot two) branch of that software. Minor Releases often make improvements to existing features and functionality.: 6.4.3

@jorbin shared an update:

Timeline coming before next devchat.
No pressing issues – okay to wait “a few weeks for the next minor.”
Reminder to “milestone any tickets” needing addressing.

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.5

Release squad: call to join the squad ended Jan 12th.
Current: in Alpha.
Next milestone: BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 1 is Feb 13th.

Tickets / Issues that need assistance

#60227 @jonsurrell asked for feedback to use an external library for testing the HTMLHTML HyperText Markup Language. The semantic scripting language primarily used for outputting content in web browsers. APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways..
#60025 @jorbin requested help (it’s in the 6.4.3 milestone) and noted:

Joe did a great job of summerizing and shared some paths forward that I think could be good to explore

#58719 @justlevine asked is for feedback and decision criteria for bumping the minimum PHPPHP The web scripting language in which WordPress is primarily architected. WordPress requires PHP 5.6.20 or higher version to 7.2.
@bph shared the following 6.5 features being developed in GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ that need testing and feedback:

Open Floor

Discussion of changing DevChat

@jorbin opened the discussion for changing DevChat, i.e. to get to the important things to chat about (rather than half or more of the meeting dropping links):

As we are now 43 minutes into the meeting and it’s been almost all link sharing thus far, I wonder if perhaps 2024 should be the year we explore some alternatives for this meeting? I’m not sure that a link dump is doing it

The discussion summary:

“expect people to read” the agenda.
Drop a prepared message with a link(s) to the sections of the agenda.
@jeffpaul noted DevChat is also for synchronize the discussion to help move forward the release important things:

socializing to folks leading/working on feature projects or specific items targeted in a current major release that devchat is a good place to come and share blocks/problems/areas for feedback they have. Chatting through those things synchronously can help find alternate paths forward for those things that are of importance to the project.

@jeffpaul also shared DevChat can include a discussion of open proposals

advance those conversations towards an acceptance or finding iterative ways to improve those proposals.

When to start? Experiment starts next meeting.

Call for Volunteers to review the open proposals on Make/Core and create a list of unresolved ones to discuss during the DevChat meeting.

Font Library – avoid merge roadblocks

@joemcgill asked for Font Library update and plan to avoid the roadblocks experienced during 6.4. See the discussion in the Slack thread which includes Core merge criteria.

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be on 17 January 2024 at 20:00 UTC . This DevChat will experiment with a new approach

Are you interested in helping draft DevChat summaries? Volunteer at the next meeting!

Props @webcommsat for peer review.

#6-4, #6-5, #core, #core-editor, #dev-chat, #meeting, #summary

Brian Alexander 10:17 pm on December 13, 2023
Tags: 6-4 ( 78 ), 6-5 ( 76 ), dev chat ( 742 ), meeting ( 380 ), summary

Dev Chat Summary, December 6, 2023

The WordPress Developers Chat meeting took place on 6 December 2023 at 20:00 UTC in core on Make WordPress Slack (or #core in Matrix).

Key info

Start of the Dev Chat on SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/., hosted by @ironprogrammer.
Today’s Dev Chat Agenda was prepared by @webcommsat.

Announcements

WordPress 6.4.2 Maintenance & Security Release: This minor releaseMinor Release A set of releases or versions having the same minor version number may be collectively referred to as .x , for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.3, and all other versions in the 5.2 (five dot two) branch of that software. Minor Releases often make improvements to existing features and functionality. addresses a handful of CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. bugs, as well as a preventive security update. Props to the minor release squad for getting this shipped!

Highlighted Posts

Recap: WordPress 6.4 “Shirley” Retrospective: Check out this summary of feedback received from the 6.4 retro post.
Proposal: Default Theme Task Force for 2024: Share your thoughts or step forward to join this effort in supporting default themes.
Redesigning Developer Resources and a call for testing: Your feedback is requested to help move forward on improving the design and information flow for WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/’s Dev Resources content.
Summary posts covering content from November 2023: What’s new for Developers, November 2023 and What’s New on Learn WordPress, November 2023 edition. More developer-focused posts are available on the Developer Blog. The next editorial meeting has been moved to December 14, 2023, 13:00 UTC in the #core-dev-blog channel on Slack.
Hallway Hangout: Performance End of Year Review 2023: Hop into this hallway hangout tomorrow, December 7 to celebrate accomplishments this year, and for a peek at what’s coming in 2024.
Create Tours for Make P2s: All team blogs have this new pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party activated…how can your team use it?
Nominations for 2024 edition, core team reps – nominations open until December 14!
Core Team update, December 4, 2023: See this post for a team status update.

Editor Updates

@annezazu has graciously shared this week’s #core-editor update, found here: https://make.wordpress.org/core/2023/12/05/dev-chat-agenda-december-6-2023/#comment-45924

Coming to GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ 17.3, you can explore partially synced patterns behind an experimental flag by enabling the “Connections” experiment when the time comes.
Efforts continue to align post and site editor features with some behind the scenes work done to have the canvas of the site editor and post editor under a unique component.
New tracking issue for a public 1.0 version of the interactivity API.
Progress update on having the navigation overlay as a separate template part that can be individually customized.
PR to Add layout classes to legacy Group inner container merged (requires a PHPPHP The web scripting language in which WordPress is primarily architected. WordPress requires PHP 5.6.20 or higher backportbackport A port is when code from one branch (or trunk) is merged into another branch or trunk. Some changes in WordPress point releases are the result of backporting code from trunk to the release branch.) as part of an overall effort to bring appearance tools to classic themes.
Various improvements to the data views work including support for NOT IN operator as a way to filter, a way to filter by template author allowing you to see templates provided by plugins more readily, and a grid view for templates with a preview of the templates listed. This is all behind an experimental flag in Gutenberg > Experiments > “New adminadmin (and super admin) views”.
The 6.5 roadmap is slated to ship this week barring any last minute feedback.

Release Updates

Next minor release: 6.4.3

@jorbin indicated that work is underway to put a squad together for this release.

👉🏻 Volunteers interested in helping on the 6.4.3 minor release should drop a note in #6-4-release-leads.

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.5

Some helpful links:

Development cycle page.
WordPress 6.5 Editor Tasks board is out.
A 6.5 roadmap draft has been shared in #6-5-release-leads and work is underway to gather remaining information.
⏰ Reminder Hallway Hangout on exploring 6.5 will take place on Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 01:00 PM PST.

Are you able to help with future bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrubs? Bug scrubs post. Next scrub: December 19, 2023 at 19:00 UTC in the #core Slack channel.

Component Maintainer Updates

Disable autoload for large options

@flixos90 requested a second opinion and general feedback on the approach envisioned in https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/42441. In order to differentiate between whether an autoload value for an option was set as a default or explicitly chosen, it is proposed to add new possible values for that database column. For additional context, comment:20 may be helpful, and a PR implementation already exists.

While personally supportive of the effort, Felix added that such a change will require a dev notedev note Each important change in WordPress Core is documented in a developers note, (usually called dev note). Good dev notes generally include a description of the change, the decision that led to this change, and a description of how developers are supposed to work with that change. Dev notes are published on Make/Core blog during the beta phase of WordPress release cycle. Publishing dev notes is particularly important when plugin/theme authors and WordPress developers need to be aware of those changes.In general, all dev notes are compiled into a Field Guide at the beginning of the release candidate phase., and plugins specifically focused on autoloading may need to cater for the change. It was clarified that only plugins that enhance autoloading specifically should be affected. @azaozz agreed that this approach was sound, and should be fully backwards compatible. Additional discussion moved to the Trac ticket.

Open Floor

Core version displayed on Updates page

From the agenda comments, @shenyanzhi wished to draw attention to https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/40241. It was suggested to raise the ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. over in #core-upgrade-install for additional feedback, and for contributors to leave a comment on the ticket or dev chat post comments.

Disable the `WordPress-Docs` ruleset in Gutenberg

Also from the agenda comments, @antonvlasenko asked for feedback on a proposal (GB 56487) to [temporarily] disable the WordPress-Docs ruleset from Gutenberg. Core doesn’t use these rules, so this change would simplify the backporting process from Core, improving parity between the repos. Feedback on the issue or accompanying PR is greatly appreciated.

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be on 13 December 2023 at 20:00 UTC .

Are you interested in helping draft Dev Chat summaries? Volunteer at the next meeting!

Props @hellofromtonya for peer review, and @webcommsat for essential meeting preparation work.

#6-4, #6-5, #dev-chat, #meeting, #summary

Brian Alexander 10:18 am on November 17, 2023
Tags: 6-4 ( 78 ), 6-5 ( 76 ), dev chat ( 742 ), meeting ( 380 ), summary

Dev Chat Summary, November 15, 2023

The WordPress Developers Chat meeting took place on Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 20:00 UTC in core on Make WordPress Slack (or #core in Matrix).

Key info

Start of the Dev Chat on SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/., hosted by @ironprogrammer.
Today’s Dev Chat Agenda was prepared by @webcommsat.

Announcements

🎉 WordPress 6.4.1 is out!: Thank you to every single person who has been involved and continues to contribute to 6.4! (Also see the original release post.)

Additional background information on the release:

Overview of technical details and timeline for the rapid maintenance release 6.4.1 (props @desrosj). Update comment on number of installs of 6.4 now running 6.4.1.
To safeguard against future related issues, contributors are exploring ways to better test against different versions of curl. It is always strongly recommended to run current and supported versions of all software.
Hosting companies and interested contributors are encouraged to join the distributed testing program where anyone can get involved with and report the results of the coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. automated test suite back to WordPress.

Highlighted Posts

What’s new in Gutenberg 17.0?: Get the scoop on what’s new, and try it out for yourself.
WordPress 6.4 performance improvements (to be added to the Field GuideField guide The field guide is a type of blogpost published on Make/Core during the release candidate phase of the WordPress release cycle. The field guide generally lists all the dev notes published during the beta cycle. This guide is linked in the about page of the corresponding version of WordPress, in the release post and in the HelpHub version page.).
Also check out @swissspidy‘s personal blogblog (versus network, site) post on getting started with performance testing.
👀 See this update to the Field Guide: Main query loop handling for block themes in 6.4.
Update to the core commit message format: It has been updated to take into account backportbackport A port is when code from one branch (or trunk) is merged into another branch or trunk. Some changes in WordPress point releases are the result of backporting code from trunk to the release branch. and follow up commits. There is also a change on where “props” is used in the commit message.
📣 Call for help on outstanding 6.4 End User documentation (HelpHub). Please see the documentation tracker on GitHub for 6.4 end users. 🙏

@webcommsat emphasized that developers with 6.4 knowledge can really help with reviews and contributions toward End User docs. The sooner the documentation is published, the sooner it can benefit the community.

And some items from last week’s cancelled chat to touch on:

A proposed schedule for 2024 major releases has been shared by @chanthaboune, proposing dates for 6.5, 6.6, and 6.7. Please share your thoughts on timing, focus, or anything else relates to these releases in the post comments.

@jeffpaul called on potential 6.5/6.6/6.7 leads to share their thoughts on this post.

Accessibility improvements in the 6.4 release: Check out this rundown of a11yAccessibility Accessibility (commonly shortened to a11y) refers to the design of products, devices, services, or environments for people with disabilities. The concept of accessible design ensures both “direct access” (i.e. unassisted) and “indirect access” meaning compatibility with a person’s assistive technology (for example, computer screen readers). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility) items addressed in 6.4.
Proposal to discontinue the weekly #core-editor meetings: Add your thoughts about this change, and opportunities to incorporate editor discussions in Dev Chat.
Shareable performance testing utils: Join the discussion to explore ways that projects can incorporate performance testing as part of their development workflow.

And finally, some reminders ⏲️:

Call for 6.4.x Release Managers: Work on improving 6.4 continues after the main release, so please consider joining the minor releaseMinor Release A set of releases or versions having the same minor version number may be collectively referred to as .x , for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.3, and all other versions in the 5.2 (five dot two) branch of that software. Minor Releases often make improvements to existing features and functionality. squad to help keep 6.4 healthy.
Call for volunteers to help with 6.4 end-user documentation: The Docs team is looking for volunteers to revise end-user docs (HelpHub) for 6.4. Check out the post and learn how to pitch in! Wait…did I mention this already? Yep �� but it’s so important for our user community ❤️.

Release Updates

Next minor release: 6.4.2

@jeffpaul noted that if minor release squad volunteers can be found soon, that there’s a possibility of shipping a 6.4.2 minor release before year’s end. He requested feedback on whether there are any urgent/important items that need to be addressed soon.

@jorbin has been watching the (6.4) minor release issues report, and noted that #59847 seems the most urgent. He also pointed out nice-to-have editor package backports in #59828. If volunteers can be found to support the release, then he suggested a target of the week of November 27, 2023.

@joemcgill noted that #59847 is nearly ready, and requested feedback on the related PR.

👉🏻 Volunteers who can help with the 6.4.2 minor release (and determine timing) should drop a note in #6-4-release-leads.

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.5

The development cycle page has been created. It will be populated after discussing release timings and the finalization of the squad.
Are you able to help with future bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrubs? Check out the 6.5 scrub schedule.
And keep tabs on the #6-5-release-leads channel for additional updates.

@jorbin asked that 6.5 ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. scrub participants keep an eye out for regressions that should be moved to the 6.4.2 milestone, to get fixes delivered to users more quickly.

@webcommsat shared a link to the November 14 scrub for anyone looking at tickets async, and called on contributors to help with patches and writing of tests. 🙏🏻

Open Floor

Proposal to Cancel `#core-editor` Meetings

(This discussion started during highlights with regards to this proposal, and is shared here for readability.)

@jeffpaul expressed worry about losing touch with GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ development without regular meetings and sought alternative ways to stay updated. @jorbin suggested incorporating editor updates into existing meetings, particularly emphasizing involvement from major release editor leads.

@webcommsat highlighted the usefulness of core-editor summaries and proposed integrating regular updates into the dev chat agenda. @ironprogrammer raised the question of where the editor summary would originate if the meetings themselves were cancelled. @jeffpaul suggested obtaining editor updates during dev chat to ensure communication of updates and blockers across the project.

The idea of carving out an official “editor updates” section in dev chat was considered, and @jorbin suggested seeking volunteers from the #core-editor channel to participate in the chat. @annezazu volunteered to take on the responsibility and discussed potential ways to share editor updates, including during the meeting or through agenda posts. The need for asynchronous options, given different time zones, was acknowledged.

@webcommsat suggested having a dedicated section for editor updates on the dev chat agenda post, and plan for asynchronous sharing. @annezazu volunteered to make the meetings and incorporate asynchronous sharing, considering her near term availability across time zones. The importance of avoiding disruptions during meetings was discussed, as was the possibility of maintaining #core-editor office hours for specific questions related to the editor.

2024 Core Team Reps Nominations

@webcommsat gave a reminder for #core contributors to have a look at the draft post: Nominations for Core Team Reps: 2024 Edition. The dates/timing may need revising, and team reps are looking into the possibility of having the voting poll embedded into the post to make it easier to vote. Please share your feedback in #core and CC @webcommsat and @hellofromtonya.

WordPress 6.4 Retrospective

@cbringmann shared WordPress 6.4 Retrospective, and asked that anyone who has contributed to the release to reflect and share their thoughts on the release process (instructions in the post). A follow-up post will be published in December.

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be on 22 November 2023 at 20:00 UTC .

Are you interested in helping draft Dev Chat summaries? Volunteer at the next meeting!

Props @webcommsat for collaboration on this post and meeting preparation.

#6-4, #6-5, #dev-chat, #meeting, #summary

Abha Thakor 12:18 am on November 3, 2023
Tags: 6-4 ( 78 ), 6-5 ( 76 ), dev chat ( 742 ), meeting ( 380 ), summary

Dev Chat Summary, November 1, 2023

The notes from the weekly WordPress developers chat which took place on November 1, 2023 at 20:00 UTCin the core channel of Make WordPress Slack.

Key Links

Summary from October 25, 2023 meeting – thanks to @zunaid321 and @webcommsat
Dev Chat agenda and highlighted posts followed for the meeting. Tonya thanked @webcommsat for always preparing the agenda.
Start of the meeting held on Slack, facilitated by @hellofromtonya.

Announcements

WordPress 6.4 Release Candidate 3 was released just before Dev Chat – please help test and make the release the best it can be. All details are on the post. Thanks to everyone who contributed towards this.

Reminder: Dev Chat continues at 20:00 UTC throughout the year and does not change with daylight saving changes.

Highlighted Posts

A recording of the Hallway hangout on performance improvements in WordPress 6.4 is now available. The main points are also summarized on the post for anyone not able to access the recording.

Call for 6.4x release managers – this followed a discussion in Dev Chat last week. Please add a comment to the post if you are interested in supporting the maintenance and minor releases. Thanks to @jorbin for putting this together.

Reminder: Call for contributors to assist with 6.4 End User documentation. Extra assistance will be appreciated to help with this as we move towards the release day.

What’s new in Gutenberg 16.9.

Release Updates

Next major WordPress release: 6.4

Release candidates and rest of the cycle

RC3 was the last scheduled Release Candidaterelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta)..

@hellofromtonya explained that another RCrelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta). could possibly happen in the following circumstances. If a regressionregression A software bug that breaks or degrades something that previously worked. Regressions are often treated as critical bugs or blockers. Recent regressions may be given higher priorities. A "3.6 regression" would be a bug in 3.6 that worked as intended in 3.5.(s) gets reported and resolved, then yes, another might happen. But currently all regressions are resolved and shipped in RC3!

Next week’s schedule:

Dry Run – on Nov 6, 2023.
24 hour code freeze starts after the Dry Run.
6.4.0 release party starts on Nov 7, 2023 after the 24 hour code freeze expires.

Any issues relating to 6.4?

No other issues were raised during the meeting.

Relevant 6.4 links

No new links were published at the time of the meeting.

Field Guide for 6.4

@webcommsat: In addition to the Field GuideField guide The field guide is a type of blogpost published on Make/Core during the release candidate phase of the WordPress release cycle. The field guide generally lists all the dev notes published during the beta cycle. This guide is linked in the about page of the corresponding version of WordPress, in the release post and in the HelpHub version page., you can also find all Developer Notes relating to 6.4 using this tag. If you think a change would benefit from an additional dev notedev note Each important change in WordPress Core is documented in a developers note, (usually called dev note). Good dev notes generally include a description of the change, the decision that led to this change, and a description of how developers are supposed to work with that change. Dev notes are published on Make/Core blog during the beta phase of WordPress release cycle. Publishing dev notes is particularly important when plugin/theme authors and WordPress developers need to be aware of those changes.In general, all dev notes are compiled into a Field Guide at the beginning of the release candidate phase., please add it to the Documentation Tracker for 6.4. You can also tagtag A directory in Subversion. WordPress uses tags to store a single snapshot of a version (3.6, 3.6.1, etc.), the common convention of tags in version control systems. (Not to be confused with post tags.) one of the docs release co-leads in a message in coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. if you want to discuss the possibility of an additional dev note and do not have access to the tracker.

Release parties schedule for 6.4

6.4 Release Candidates phase

This detailed guide will walk you through testing features in WordPress 6.4.

Roadmap to 6.4 – this release is scheduled for November 7, 2023.

6.4 Development Cycle

Future releases: 6.5

Timings and squad

@joemcgill followed up the question at last week’s dev chat on the formation of a release squad for 6.5.
@chanthaboune is thinking through the timing of releases across the year, and therefore there is no clear date for the first release of 2024 as yet. She hopes to bring a draft of suggested dates/ times by Monday November 6, 2023. This is the ‘only blockerblocker A bug which is so severe that it blocks a release.’ for a call for volunteers. One person has contacted Josepha so far to participate in 6.5.
General agreement in the meeting for early planning for the next release.
the discussion on Slack.

Triagetriage The act of evaluating and sorting bug reports, in order to decide priority, severity, and other factors. tickets for 6.5

@oglekler requested triages to start as soon as possible, as trunktrunk A directory in Subversion containing the latest development code in preparation for the next major release cycle. If you are running "trunk", then you are on the latest revision. is already open and 6.5 Alpha has begun. She raised a call for volunteers.
discussion followed on updating the core handbook to reflect that triages and bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrubs can be held at any time, and to clarify that any contributors wanting to run a scrub did not need to wait for a completed release cycle or for a squad to be formed. The possibility of a post highlighting and calling for volunteers was suggested for the future.
a number of experienced core developers are able to buddy or give advice to help anyone less familiar with running scrubs.
if you can volunteer to run a scrub, you can share details in a future dev chat or comment on the summary post, and also post the information in the Core SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel ahead of time to best ensure that others are aware and can gather to help at the scrub. The core triage lead or the Core Team Reps can also update the bug scrub post in Make/Core.
if you are wanting to run a scrub related to particular component(s), please contact the component maintainers who can help and share information on priority tickets or planned scrubs.

The full discussion on triaging and bug scrubs.

Tickets or components help requests

No tickets were mentioned in the meeting.

Open floor

Reminders for the following were brought up right before the meeting ended:

Call for contributors to assist with 6.4 End User documentation. Volunteers can also post in this thread from the meeting.

Call for 6.4x release managers

Next meeting

The next meeting will be on Wednesday November 8, 2023, at 20:00 UTC.

After Dev Chat posts for attention:

Hallway Hangout: Issues Triage Extending Gutenberg – note this will take place on November 10, 2023 at 16:00 UTC.

Are you interested in helping draft Dev Chat summaries? Volunteer at the start of the next meeting on the #core Slack channel or contact one of the Core Team reps.

Props to @zunaid321 for contribution to the notes, and to @marybaum for review.

#6-4, #6-5, #dev-chat, #meeting, #summary

Zunaid Amin 11:59 pm on November 2, 2023
Tags: 6-4 ( 78 ), 6.5, dev chat ( 742 ), meeting ( 380 ), summary

Dev Chat Summary, October 25, 2023

The notes from the weekly WordPress developers chat which took place on October 25, 2023 at 20:00 UTC in the core channel of Make WordPress Slack.

Key Links

Dev Chat agenda and highlighted posts followed for the meeting, prepared by @webcommsat
Start of the meeting held on Slack, facilitated by @hellofromtonya
Summary: @zunaid321 and @webcommsat

Announcements

WordPress 6.4 Release Candidate 2 is available – please help test and make the release the best it can be. All details are on the post. Thanks to everyone who contributed towards this.

Summary and Insights of Phase 3 related conversations

WordPress 6.4 Release Candidate Phase

WordPress 6.4 Field Guide

Highlighted Posts

Summary and Insights of Phase 3 related conversations

WordPress 6.4 Release Candidate Phase

WordPress 6.4 Field Guide

Release Updates

Next major WordPress release: 6.4

New 6.4 related posts

6.4 Release Candidates phase

Update from contributors on docs for this release:

Field Guide for 6.4
You can also find all Developer Notes relating to 6.4 using this tag
If you think a ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. needs a dev notedev note Each important change in WordPress Core is documented in a developers note, (usually called dev note). Good dev notes generally include a description of the change, the decision that led to this change, and a description of how developers are supposed to work with that change. Dev notes are published on Make/Core blog during the beta phase of WordPress release cycle. Publishing dev notes is particularly important when plugin/theme authors and WordPress developers need to be aware of those changes.In general, all dev notes are compiled into a Field Guide at the beginning of the release candidate phase. and it has not been highlighted previously, send a message to Nalini on SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. for those working on the docs release or add it to the Documentation Tracker for 6.4
Call for contributors to assist with 6.4 End User documentation

Any issues relating to 6.4 tickets?

Existing 6.4 useful links

Release parties schedule for 6.4

This detailed guide will walk you through testing features in WordPress 6.4.

Roadmap to 6.4 – this release is scheduled for November 7, 2023.

Bug Scrub Schedule 6.4

6.4 Development Cycle

Project Board for Editor Tasks for WordPress 6.4 on GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/

GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/

What’s new in Gutenberg 16.9? (25 October) – Other than the new release update, nothing related to Gutenberg was brought up in the meeting.

Components & Tickets

The following tickets were raised in the meeting for feedback:

TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. ticket #59718: Short-term (WP 6.4) hotfix to prevent fatal error in standalone Gutenberg (<16.5)

Trac ticket #59289: About Page for 6.4 Release

Trac ticket #59722: Regressionregression A software bug that breaks or degrades something that previously worked. Regressions are often treated as critical bugs or blockers. Recent regressions may be given higher priorities. A "3.6 regression" would be a bug in 3.6 that worked as intended in 3.5.: class-wp-rest-server.php

For the above tickets check out the Slack discussion for more information.

Trac ticket #59723: Pattern file containing PHPPHP The web scripting language in which WordPress is primarily architected. WordPress requires PHP 5.6.20 or higher constant from theme causes fatal error on update to WordPress 6.4 – was brought up by @hellofromtonya since this issue is in 6.3 and 6.4 and causes a fatal error during the upgrade process. Check out the Slack discussion for more info.

More tickets were brought up by @hellofromtonya as they need attention:

Trac ticket #59736: Regression: Singular blockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience. template – regression introduced in 6.4 by r56507. Has a patchpatch A special text file that describes changes to code, by identifying the files and lines which are added, removed, and altered. It may also be referred to as a diff. A patch can be applied to a codebase for testing. on it and explanation.

Trac ticket #59723: Pattern file containing PHP constant from theme causes fatal error on update to WordPress 6.4 – fatal error during WP upgrade

Trac ticket #55493: [Block] File: Embedded PDF fails to render in Safari – regression in File block introduced in 6.4

Trac ticket #59732: Theme live preview is broken – CustomizerCustomizer Tool built into WordPress core that hooks into most modern themes. You can use it to preview and modify many of your site’s appearance settings. theme live previewers are broken, which 6.4 didn’t cause but help to emphasis it. There’s a patch that’s ready to test. Need to better understand its impact in 6.4.

Trac ticket #58281: Rollback Auto-Update (Rollback part 3) – check out the Slack discussion for more info as it was raised by @afragen

Open floor

@jeffpaul highlighted for post 6.4, the Community Summit Discussion Notes: Aligning processes and contributions between WordPress Core and Gutenberg. He especially drew attention to this topic to those who are active during the 6.4 release and particularly with the CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress./Gutenberg interactions. He asked for them to share their insights and thoughts on the post to help improve planning, shared processes and to make things easier for the future.

@joemcgill raised a query on the planning and squads formation for the future major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope., 6.5, and the 6.4.1, 6.4.2 etc minor releases. The Slack discussion.

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be on Wednesday November 1, 2023, at 20:00 UTC.

Are you interested in helping draft Dev Chat summaries? Volunteer at the start of the next meeting on the #core Slack channel.

Props to @webcomms and @marybaum for input into the summary and for review.

#6-4, #6-5-2, #dev-chat, #meeting, #summary

Brian Alexander 11:44 pm on October 18, 2023
Tags: 6-3 ( 70 ), 6-4 ( 78 ), dev chat ( 742 ), meeting ( 380 ), summary

Dev Chat Summary, October 18, 2023

The WordPress Developers Chat meeting took place on October 18, 2023 at 20:00 UTC in the core channel of Make WordPress Slack.

Key Links

Start of the Dev Chat on SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/., hosted by @ironprogrammer.

Announcements

WordPress 6.4 Release Candidate 1: Download the latest 6.4 build and don’t forget this handy reference guide for testing the latest features.

Highlighted Posts

WordPress 6.4 Release Candidate Phase: Learn or refresh your knowledge of what happens during RCrelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta).. Questions? Please post them in the comments.
6.4 Dev Notes: It’s been a busy time in the Make/CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. blogblog (versus network, site)! Stay updated on the latest technical updates by checking out posts conveniently tagged with #dev-notes-6-4. Major props to dev notedev note Each important change in WordPress Core is documented in a developers note, (usually called dev note). Good dev notes generally include a description of the change, the decision that led to this change, and a description of how developers are supposed to work with that change. Dev notes are published on Make/Core blog during the beta phase of WordPress release cycle. Publishing dev notes is particularly important when plugin/theme authors and WordPress developers need to be aware of those changes.In general, all dev notes are compiled into a Field Guide at the beginning of the release candidate phase. authors and wranglers who have worked tirelessly to make this happen! 🎉
WordPress core is now using Playwright for all browser-based tests: e2e fans rejoice! This milestone promises improved test stability and better options for authoring tests. If you’ve been holding back while the migrationMigration Moving the code, database and media files for a website site from one server to another. Most typically done when changing hosting companies. from Puppeteer to Playwright has been underway, now is a great time to jump back in to improve Core e2e coverage.
What’s new in Gutenberg 16.8 (11 October): Check out updates to the Cover blockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience., Font Library, and more in this roundup of the latest release.

Release Updates

WordPress 6.4

RC 2 is scheduled for next Tuesday, October 24, 2023.

Stay in the loopLoop The Loop is PHP code used by WordPress to display posts. Using The Loop, WordPress processes each post to be displayed on the current page, and formats it according to how it matches specified criteria within The Loop tags. Any HTML or PHP code in the Loop will be processed on each post. https://codex.wordpress.org/The_Loop. with 6.4 by following:

WordPress 6.4 Development Cycle
Roadmap to 6.4 — this next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope. is scheduled for November 7, 2023
Testing WordPress 6.4 — a detailed guide for testing new and refined features
6.4 Editor tasks board
Release parties schedule for 6.4
Bug Scrub Schedule 6.4 ✅ (current schedule is complete)
and following along in the #6-4-release-leads channel

Additional release updates from the floor included:

A question was raised in #6-4-release-leads about removing some GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/-only packages from the next npm package update to Core.
Some 6.4 dev notesdev note Each important change in WordPress Core is documented in a developers note, (usually called dev note). Good dev notes generally include a description of the change, the decision that led to this change, and a description of how developers are supposed to work with that change. Dev notes are published on Make/Core blog during the beta phase of WordPress release cycle. Publishing dev notes is particularly important when plugin/theme authors and WordPress developers need to be aware of those changes.In general, all dev notes are compiled into a Field Guide at the beginning of the release candidate phase. drafts are still needed for a couple of areas, so a gentle reminder was raised to keep the official 6.4 Documentation Tracker updated with latest progress. Reach out on the Tracker for help or to the Documentation release group in the #6-4-release-leads channel.

WordPress 6.3.2

WordPress 6.3.2 – Maintenance and Security release: This follow-up to 6.3.1 introduces several bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. fixes and security updates. Make sure to update!
Keep tabs on the #6-3-release-leads channel for future updates.

Open Floor

Automated Welcome/Signposting for #core

@webcommsat asked if Core would consider utilizing an automated messaging/workflow tool similar to that used by Training. When users joined the channel, they would receive a private message from Slackbot that includes channel-specific info and links, such as the Dev Chat schedule, or orientation for new contributors and contributor days. Abha agreed to draft a proposal to seek broader input from Core and new contributors.

Use of `noopener noreferrer` in New Window/Tab Links

@presskopp had a question regarding use of rel="noopener noreferrer" in links with target="_blank", which were supposed to have been removed. To help resolve instances where this unneeded behavior remains (in Core and Gutenberg), contribute to TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. #53843: Remove adding of rel=”noopener” to links with target=”_blank”.

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be on October 25, 2023 at 20:00 UTC.

Are you interested in helping draft Dev Chat summaries? Volunteer at the start of the next meeting on the #core Slack channel.

Props @webcommsat for peer review of this post.

#6-3, #6-4, #dev-chat, #meeting, #summary

Abha Thakor 10:53 pm on October 11, 2023
Tags: 6-3 ( 70 ), 6-4 ( 78 ), dev chat ( 742 ), meeting ( 380 ), summary

Dev Chat summary, October 11, 2023

Summary of the WordPress developers chat meeting in the CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel.

Key links

Start of the Dev Chat meeting on the Core Slack

Dev Chat agenda followed – thanks to @webcommsat for preparing.

Announcements

WordPress 6.4 Beta 3 is available: Please help test and make the release the best it can be! Thanks to everyone who contributed toward BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 3, as well as those who came and facilitated the release party on October 10. Note the Twenty Twenty Four images issue has been resolved, and the images are rendering correctly in Beta 3.

The WordPress 6.3.2 minor releaseMinor Release A set of releases or versions having the same minor version number may be collectively referred to as .x , for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.3, and all other versions in the 5.2 (five dot two) branch of that software. Minor Releases often make improvements to existing features and functionality. has moved to tomorrow, October 12, 2023 (more information under release updates to follow).

Highlighted Posts

Four Weeks in Core: Many thanks to @audrasjb for this update covering the amazing activity in TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. between September 4 and October 9, 2023:
- 269 commits
- 337 contributors
- 295 tickets created
- 43 tickets reopened
- 277 tickets closed

Core Editor Improvement: Ensuring Excellence in the Writing Experience: Check out some of 6.4’s editor improvements, including new keyboard shortcuts, smoother list merging, and more. This post also includes a video demonstrating some of these enhancements. As you test these updates, please report bugs or suggestions. Thanks to @annezazu 🙏🏻

Reminder: Hallway Hangout: Working session on consolidating various navigation modes: Taking place on November 15, 2023 at 16:00 UTC. This is part of efforts to improve accessibilityAccessibility Accessibility (commonly shortened to a11y) refers to the design of products, devices, services, or environments for people with disabilities. The concept of accessible design ensures both “direct access” (i.e. unassisted) and “indirect access” meaning compatibility with a person’s assistive technology (for example, computer screen readers). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility) in the Site Editor.

The Dev Blog is looking for a writer for the following topic: How to add commands to the command palette. Please respond on the GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. if you are interested.

Release Updates

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.4

Release Candidaterelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta). 1 is scheduled for next Tuesday, October 17, 2023.

This hallway hangout is happening tomorrow, October 12, 2023: What’s new for developers in WordPress 6.4.

WordPress 6.4 Development Cycle
Roadmap to 6.4 — this next major release is scheduled for November 7, 2023
Testing WordPress 6.4 — a detailed guide for testing new and refined features
6.4 Editor tasks board
Release parties schedule for 6.4
Bug Scrub Schedule 6.4
and following along in the #6-4-release-leads channel

6.4 tickets that need attention

@rajinsharwar highlighted #52529 and requested testing of the patchpatch A special text file that describes changes to code, by identifying the files and lines which are added, removed, and altered. It may also be referred to as a diff. A patch can be applied to a codebase for testing. to see if they can replicate the errors mentioned.

Dev Notesdev note Each important change in WordPress Core is documented in a developers note, (usually called dev note). Good dev notes generally include a description of the change, the decision that led to this change, and a description of how developers are supposed to work with that change. Dev notes are published on Make/Core blog during the beta phase of WordPress release cycle. Publishing dev notes is particularly important when plugin/theme authors and WordPress developers need to be aware of those changes.In general, all dev notes are compiled into a Field Guide at the beginning of the release candidate phase.

@webcommsat for the release documentation group: A reminder that the Field GuideField guide The field guide is a type of blogpost published on Make/Core during the release candidate phase of the WordPress release cycle. The field guide generally lists all the dev notes published during the beta cycle. This guide is linked in the about page of the corresponding version of WordPress, in the release post and in the HelpHub version page. is due to be published next week. This is so the link can be included in the release’s About Page. It would be great to have as many dev notes ready in draft as soon as possible, so they can have a final review and be published.

6.4 dev notes tracking project board for reviews and publishing is in progress.

GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ – Some Gutenberg tickets have already been labelled and clustered. There is a significant list that is being clustered and labelled, and these will then get added to the documentation tracker for 6.4. The tracker will show the edit, review and publish status of the dev notes – the view that will be most useful for this is ‘dev notes’. For Gutenberg, the wrangling and discussion on clustering and inclusions will happen in the Gutenberg tracker. Thanks to @bph who is going to be helping with this.

Core – If you are a component maintainer, and have not already shared that you are working on a dev notedev note Each important change in WordPress Core is documented in a developers note, (usually called dev note). Good dev notes generally include a description of the change, the decision that led to this change, and a description of how developers are supposed to work with that change. Dev notes are published on Make/Core blog during the beta phase of WordPress release cycle. Publishing dev notes is particularly important when plugin/theme authors and WordPress developers need to be aware of those changes.In general, all dev notes are compiled into a Field Guide at the beginning of the release candidate phase. relating to a Core Trac ticket or cluster of tickets, please add a comment on this issue and link any google docs, and we will populate the tracker with this.

For End user and Core tickets, the labelling is continuing. As we are being advised of dev notes needed or in progress by maintainers, they are being added to the documentation tracker.

For performance dev notes, issues are being added to the documentation tracker once confirmed for reviews and publishing purposes. Wrangling and discussion of inclusion of tickets is happening on the Performance GitHub ticket.

Reviews – If any devs are able to assist with technical reviews of dev notes if needed, let @webcommsat know to update the list.

Next minor release: 6.3.2

WordPress 6.3.2 RC1 is available: Please join in to help test!

*A note on the 6.3.2 release schedule change:* In order to accommodate the need for hosts to deal with an important curl 8.4.0 security release on Wednesday, the 6.3.2 final release has been moved to Thursday, October 12, 2023.

Follow the #6-3-release-leads channel for the latest updates.

Thanks to everyone who led, supported, helped test, raised issues, and helped to fix tickets in these releases!

Gutenberg

Gutenberg 16.8.0 shipped during dev chat. An update on this release will be published soon and will be findable on the tagtag A directory in Subversion. WordPress uses tags to store a single snapshot of a version (3.6, 3.6.1, etc.), the common convention of tags in version control systems. (Not to be confused with post tags.) #gutenberg-new on the Make/ Core blogblog (versus network, site).

Component Maintainers requests

@rajinsharwar highlighted Trac ticket #55335. Requested confirmation if it should be considered a bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority..

Open floor

No additional items were raised. A reminder of the Field Guide and dev notes was shared.

Props to @webcommsat for the agenda and summary, and to @ironprogrammer for facilitating the meeting and reviewing the summary.

#6-3, #6-4, #dev-chat, #meeting, #summary

Welcome!

Communication

Announcements

Discussion on open proposals in Core

Open Floor

Discussion on open proposals in Core

Interactivity APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways.

HTMLHTML HyperText Markup Language. The semantic scripting language primarily used for outputting content in web browsers. API: Introduce WP_HTML::tag() for safely creating HTML

Forthcoming releases

6.4.3

6.5

Open Floor

Discussion on open proposals in coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress.

Default Theme Task Force for 2024

Proposal to improve the editor tech workflow for major releases

Forthcoming releases

6.5

How was the first experimental new DevChat?

What to change?

Key info

Chat Summary

Release Updates

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.5

Tickets / Issues that need assistance

Open Floor

Discussion of changing DevChat

Font Library – avoid merge roadblocks

Next Meeting

Key info

Announcements

Highlighted Posts

Editor Updates

Release Updates

Next minor release: 6.4.3

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.5

Component Maintainer Updates

Disable autoload for large options

Open Floor

Core version displayed on Updates page

Disable the WordPress-Docs ruleset in Gutenberg

Next Meeting

Key info

Announcements

Highlighted Posts

Release Updates

Next minor release: 6.4.2

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.5

Open Floor

Proposal to Cancel #core-editor Meetings

2024 Core Team Reps Nominations

WordPress 6.4 Retrospective

Next Meeting

Key Links

Announcements

Highlighted Posts

Release Updates

Next major WordPress release: 6.4

Release candidates and rest of the cycle

Any issues relating to 6.4?

Relevant 6.4 links

Future releases: 6.5

Tickets or components help requests

Open floor

Next meeting

Key Links

Announcements

Highlighted Posts

Release Updates

Next major WordPress release: 6.4

Any issues relating to 6.4 tickets?

Components & Tickets

Open floor

Next Meeting

Key Links

Announcements

Highlighted Posts

Release Updates

WordPress 6.4

WordPress 6.3.2

Open Floor

HTMLHTML HyperText Markup Language. The semantic scripting language primarily used for outputting content in web browsers. API: Introduce `WP_HTML::tag()` for safely creating HTML

Disable the `WordPress-Docs` ruleset in Gutenberg

Proposal to Cancel `#core-editor` Meetings

Use of `noopener noreferrer` in New Window/Tab Links