Wikivoyage:Discover

Here we collaborate on future discover facts that are featured on the Main Page (and on the Discover page).

• At a minimum, [[link]] the article that contains the fact in question. The fact must be taken from a Wikivoyage article.
• '''Boldface''' the fact of interest.
• Linked articles don't need to be perfect, but preference should be given to those with a status of "usable" or higher.
• Relevant images are required for one in every three facts. They should be placed above the fact in question, with the following formatting:

[[Image:imagename|right|200px|description]]
The interesting fact linked to this image goes here.

• When looking for fun facts to add, Special:Random (also accessible in the left sidebar) which displays a random Wikivoyage article can be a useful tool. As many articles unfortunately are short on content, you may want to hit the link multiple times while opening up new articles in new tabs.

• The content in Template:Discover is automatically updated on a daily basis and each Discover entry is displayed for three days.
• If the box above is empty, it means that the template ran out of entries. If this happens you can add new entries from the nominations below. Remove entries from the nominations list as you add them to the template.
• If you are unsure about how it works, feel free to try out things in the Discover sandbox first.
• When an entry isn't shown on the Main Page any longer, it should be added to the Discover archive, not just deleted from the template.

Add your entries to the end of this list. Do not leave any space or other commentary between entries. However, feel free to rearrange the list, because geographic variety in what's displayed is good (e.g. if the next three items are all from Europe, it's good to intersperse something from somewhere else).

• Courmayeur began to grow during the 19th century's fashion for alpinism, and Italy's first alpine guide society was established here.

• The Inuit name of Resolute (pictured), Qausuittuqis, means "Seagull Nesting Place".
• Liepāja is known in Latvia as "the city where the wind is born", because of the continual sea breeze.
• Graaff-Reinet was established in 1786 to bring law and order, religion and education to the many Dutch farmers on the Eastern Frontier.

• The Old Portland Island Lighthouse (pictured) was shifted to Wairoa from Portland Island at the tip of Mahia Peninsula.
• Founded in 1719, the Christ Church in Warwick Parish is one of the world's oldest Presbyterian churches outside of Europe.
• The Rock of Authority in Kabwe is known as the birthplace of Zambian independence for its use as a political rally site by independence fighters.

• The Chashma-Ayub Mausoleum (pictured) in Bukhara contains a spring said to have come up from the ground when the Prophet Job struck the spot with his staff.
• The clock in Tryavna's Clock Tower has been running since it was installed in 1815.
• The Mayan civilization was never unified as many people assume, so different regions had their own unique styles of architecture.

• Dungur Palace (pictured) in Axum is nicknamed the Palace of the Queen of Sheba, but it actually dates to the 7th century, 1500 years after her reign.
• The largest tea garden in the world is Sri Mangal in Sylhet.
• Neom is planned to be expanded into a narrow 170 km (110 mi) long city into the Saudi desert named The Line.

• The Argentinian town of San José de Jáchal has a monument to the casserole (pictured) in its Plaza Principal.
• Surrounded by steep mountains, built along the river, Kapan is full of pink Soviet apartment blocks, some of them creeping up the mountainside in steps.
• Unlike Mandarin, there is no widely-used Romanization system for Wu.

• Founded as the seat of Bohemian dukes in the 9th century and now home to the Czech president, Prague Castle (pictured) is the largest historical castle in the world.
• The souqs of Kassala are lively and colourful, with many people dressed in clothes unique to their tribe.
• Jaffa has one of the oldest ports in the world.

• The Faisal Mosque (pictured) in Islamabad is the national mosque of Pakistan.
• Locals refer to Port Clinton as one of Ohio's quaint drinking villages, with an occasional fishing problem.
• El Alamein Fountain in Sydney has a "dandelion head" sphere of mist at the top of a tall stem and has been imitated globally on many occasions.

• Once an active and important institution, the Coffee Stock Exchange (interior pictured) in Santos nowadays houses a coffee museum.
• The Boise area is home to one of the largest concentrations of Basque populations in the world outside of the Basque Country and features a Basque Museum and Cultural Center.
• Built to fend off pirates, the 16th century fortification Castillo de la Luz in Las Palmas is today surrounded by a rose garden and houses a cultural center.

• Nami Island (landscape pictured) outside Chuncheon looks especially romantic when the trees are bare in the winter, particularly when it snows.
• The diversity of Forillon's fauna is perhaps best displayed by its bird life.
• Sun Moon Lake is the largest lake in Taiwan and a traditional spot for newly-wed couples to take their honeymoon.

• Sitting on top of a mountain, Hohensalzburg Fortress (pictured) offers breathtaking views of Salzburg and the Alps.
• In many senses, Hyderabad is the meeting ground between North and South India.
• Adventurous diners in Taxco can try jumiles, small edible insects that are harvested from November to February and sold in the markets.

• The Dushanbe flagpole (pictured) flies an 1,800-square-metre (19,000 sq ft) flag of Tajikistan, weighing 700 kilograms (1,500 lb).
• A well-known saying in Münster is "Either it rains or the church bells ring. And if both occur at the same time, it's Sunday."
• In Pharping you can visit the Asura Cave where Guru Rinpoche, the founder of Tibetan Buddhism, meditated in the 8th century.

• The "This is the Place" mounument (pictured) is where Brigham Young is believed to have founded the Mormon settlement which has now developed into Salt Lake City.
• When doing minimum budget travel, food and drink are perhaps not the part of your travel expenses you want to cut down too much on.
• The Eldheimar exhibition in Vestmannaeyjar commemorates the 1973 volcanic eruption which destroyed much of the town.

• The old town hall (pictured) of Toruń is one of the most beautiful Gothic town halls in Europe.
• Houses, shops and other buildings have sprung up within the walls of Alanya's citadel, a 13th century fortification.

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• I've self-reverted an item I'd added about an ice hotel as novelty architecture. I see nothing in Wikivoyage talk:Discover#Overlinking that should prohibit me from linking both novelty architecture and the article about the town. Comments? K7L (talk) 02:26, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. As you said, use as many relevant links as there are. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:26, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It seems I have misinterpreted what the consensus was (or rather wasn't; the discussion doesn't seem to have come to any conclusion). This being the case, I apologise for interfering with your edits and citing a consensus that doesn't exist.

However, I do agree with Ypsi's original concerns that the entry should generally only link to the page where the fact is mentioned; in nearly all cases that is the destination / travel topic that is the entry's subject. Novelty architecture (as an article covering an entire field of study) is only tenuously related to this one specific ice hotel in Sweden. It's a bit like linking to Historical travel (very broad and general topic) in an entry about Herculaneum (a specific Roman archaeological site).

But we should really try to conclude that discussion one way or the other. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:55, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What if the fact is mentioned in more than one place? For instance, Chicken AK being named for ptarmigan is mentioned in both the town's article and places with unusual names. Likewise, it would make sense for the "ice hotel" concept to be mentioned both in their host cities and in the novelty architecture article. K7L (talk) 11:17, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, ice hotels in general, and the specific hotel in question are both mentioned on novelty architecture, like you say. There are lots of cases like this where the same or similar information appears on more than one page. But the discover fact is about this hotel in particular (it being the very first of its kind), so that's the article we should link to, in my opinion. There could be a future discover entry specifically for the novelty architecture article, though, no problem. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 11:48, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The novelty architecture is the whole point of the item; the bit about "being first" was merely an arbitrary line drawn to avoid having to list all of the other hotels of the same genre - which are too numerous to fit in a twenty-word blurb. K7L (talk) 12:44, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I still think we should link to just one article, the article where the fact appears. If we are to link to several articles, like the factoids in Wikipedia's Did you know (upon which our Discover section is based), I'd say we should also write the name of the article where the fact appears in bold letters, just like they do. --ϒpsilon (talk) 14:25, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The facts do appear in places with unusual names (for Chicken) and novelty architecture (for the ice hotel). K7L (talk) 02:47, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In these cases I still see the destination is the "main article" which should be highlighted somehow. It's Jukkasjärvi that has become famous because of the ice hotel representing Novelty architecture, not the other way around (ie. novelty architecture would still be around if they had built it in Gällivare instead, or not at all). In the same way, Chicken is famous because it has a funny name. --ϒpsilon (talk) 10:50, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If the rest of you think it's best to have only one link per entry, I'll accede to that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:57, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's for the best. We can still have a fact relating to novelty architecture in the future, whereas linking two or more articles in one fact is basically using those articles up for the foreseeable future, in that we don't like repeat coverage of the same articles within a period of time. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 11:26, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the concerns about duplication are that we don't want the same fact twice, not that we are trying to prevent two facts about the same destination from appearing at different times. This was raised at Wikivoyage talk:Discover#Repeating Discoveries and Same-type Discoveries before the WT split, and I think there was one we'd removed the better part of a year ago here as the same fact was mistakenly submitted twice, one month apart. K7L (talk) 13:34, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We can certainly feature a single destination as many times as we like but I think there should be a couple of months between them at least. Intentionally featuring the same fact again is something we should avoid, though if this occasionally happens by accident (maybe because there have been so long time since it was featured that nobody remembers) I don't think it's a huge problem. For instance, the fact we had a few weeks back of Michigan's map resembling two hands was featured in October 2015 with a different wording. ϒpsilon (talk) 08:34, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'd prefer not to feature the same fact twice, or have three facts from the same country appear in the same three-day interval (like The [[Aleutian Islands]] of Alaska are the easternmost U.S. point", "[[Texas]] is the second-largest state, behind Alaska", "[[Wyoming]] is the second least-populous, behind Alaska")... unless this were April 1 or some occasion where the pattern is the joke. Conversely, I can't see a fact on big things in Australia being precluded because a fact on ice hotels had already run previously; both are technically novelty architecture. K7L (talk)

• The 2½-mile boardwalk is the central focus of Ocean City's attractions.

This is a disambig page – which Ocean City is it?

New Jersey, it's in the lead. I opened the three articles and searched the for the sentence, that took a fifth of the time writing this reply. Ypsilon (talk) 10:23, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The following calendar-related items are "ready-to-go" criteria-wise and should be moved to the main queue at a date appropriate to the trivia featured:

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