Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of video games notable for speedrunning

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The result was redirect‎ to Speedrunning#History. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:41, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of video games notable for speedrunning

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List has no clear criteria as to what is "notable for speedrunning" or not, formerly having section that cited one single reliable source and overall being unmanageable. It has also been tagged for numerous issues, such as original research, since 2021. If a video game was truly "notable for speedrunning", I would argue it would warrant its own article similarly to Quake done Quick (which also has a rough article but is at least notable), but this list effectively serves as a WP:COATRACK. NegativeMP1 20:02, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. NegativeMP1 20:02, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:21, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I'm surprised to see this even be nominated for deletion. Clear keep, imo. Electricmaster (talk) 20:43, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Super Mario 64 speedrunning should be discussed in the Super Mario 64 article, and so on. No reason to discuss it together with DOOM and Super Metroid, for example. TarkusAB^talk/contrib 21:12, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Too overbroad, there are countless video games notable for speedrunning. If a game has a particular speedrunning "scene", it should probably be contained in the game's article or have its own article if it's really that notable. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:43, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Video games that are notable on Wikipedia will be notable for speedrunning. Similarly, we have Games Done Quick for the most popular speedrunning games. If anything, this list should be of the most popular speedrunning video games. Conyo14 (talk) 23:17, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I've seen people speed run the Oregon Trail; the list seems moot. Oaktree b (talk) 00:54, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as some of the content is salvageable. Agree that the article as written currently does not set up clear inclusion criteria and has some odd inclusions, but I think there's some workable material for a History of speedrunning article that would be spun-off of Speedrunning#History here. While after 2014 or so just everything was speedrun, talking about the early games that had notable speed competition early is probably more significant (Quake done Quick as already noted, Super Metroid, various racing games). Redirect would allow the material to be consulted and used in compliance with the GDFL. SnowFire (talk) 16:36, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect – Per SnowFire. DecafPotato (talk) 20:57, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect SnowFire makes a good case. Dream Focus 22:50, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect Per SnowFire, this is definitely too much a mess to fully keep but the content is salvageable to be able to be used in other articles Gatemansgc (TɅ̊LK) 23:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep this is not overcategorized (many examples exist), and the inclusion criteria is clear (equivalent to WP:GNG of the speedrunning scene in each respective game). So this meets WP:NLIST (Wikipedia Guideline) perfectly and I don't see a reason at all to redirect or delete it. Delete comments like "If a game has a particular speedrunning "scene", it should probably be contained in the game's article or have its own article if it's really that notable." do not reference guidelines or policy, and can really be said of all lists. बिनोद थारू (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 01:04, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As stated above, we have no idea what makes a game notable for speedrunning. Only Up! was once popular, and it was speedran a couple times. That could be "notable for speedrunning", but if only one reliable source noted this, then it wouldn't be worth adding in. Technically, every game can be notable for speedrunning, which could potentially violate the rule about indiscriminate information.
Delete: No definable criteria for inclusion here and appears to be a case of WP:OR. Let'srun (talk) 18:00, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.