Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Great Immigrants Award

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 08:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great Immigrants Award

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A non-notable award (to 35 people in 2203), with no obvious selection criteria or monetary reward. Coverage is press releases and PR. Could be a redirect to Carnegie Corporation of New York. Possibly a vanity award, a spam magnet at least. Edwardx (talk) 20:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Awards and United States of America. Shellwood (talk) 20:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Edwardx,

Please find my reply below. Of course, any further questions I would most certainly answer. This is my first encounter with the Deletion process and I want to make sure it is done properly.

thanks,

Ronald Sexton

I wish to argue in the strongest terms for the Great Immigrant Award remain as an entry in Wikipedia. The award is not a vanity prize, no one can purchase this award and no marketing services are involved.

Adding this to the selection section makes for more clarification:

The award is made by Carnegie Corporation of New York, a philanthropic foundation established in 1911 by Andrew Carnegie to promote the advancement and diffusion of knowledge and understanding. In keeping with this mandate, the Corporation's work focuses on the issues that Andrew Carnegie considered of paramount importance: international peace, the advancement of education and knowledge, and the strength of our democracy. The Great Immigrants award is a part of its democracy program and recognizes naturalized Americans who have made significant contributions that strengthen our democracy and enrich our society. The award is not available for purchase or as a PR/marketing offering. The award aims to bring awareness to the positive contributions of naturalized Americans at large.

The award was begun by the Corporation’s previous President Vartan Gregorian. An immigrant himself, who wish to bring attention the importance of immigrants in all aspects of American life. I am the primary contributor and based this entry on the Vilcek Prize entry. Ronald Sexton (talk) 17:25, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to for spam magnet, I was in the process of changing the link in the list of awardees to their individual Wikipedia page instead of going to the Corporation's website. Ronald Sexton (talk) 18:44, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The awards have received coverage in secondary RS to establish notability, including the AP, UPI, Jewish Journal, and analysis in scholarly tomes [1]. Longhornsg (talk) 19:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - The deletion criteria states that spam is a reason for deletion only in the context of articles "without any relevant or encyclopedic content." That is not the case here, as there is reliable sources coverage, and it is an award of one of the most notable philanthropic organizations in the world. Therefore, the concern about being a "spam magnet" is not a proper deletion reason, otherwise millions of articles would be put up for deletion, as we are constantly under duress from spam. Also, if the point in the initial nomination was that it was only given "to 35 people in 2023" (typo fixed) that's not a good argument. The quantity of awardees per year has never been a valid argument for notability (see the Nobel or Pulitzer Prizes where they typically award fewer than 35 entities per year) as the whole point of an award is that it has standards for selectivity. The article could be made more NPOV, but deletion is not justified. - Fuzheado | Talk 23:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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