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Deaths needing proper citation

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Via thorough browsing of the 2024 deaths category, I’ve found the following are marked as deceased and needing of proper citation. Rusted AutoParts 13:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rusted AutoParts:, any objection to us adding Vic White using this tweet from the World Speedway Riders' Association? The account is verifiably theirs given that it is linked at the bottom of the home page on their website, thus passes Wiki guidelines on using Twitter/X as a source. Thanks --Jkaharper (talk) 09:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:TWITTER, Twitter (X) is only a reliable source when writing about oneself. I cannot see White writing his own death announcement. WWGB (talk) 10:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Price: Dead or Alive?

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Looking over this list, should Jim Price be on it at all, as even his article doesn't indicate he's dead? A brief search doesn't turn up anything to confirm that he is either 2A02:8012:227B:0:18DE:830D:C096:71A (talk) 13:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The person who added his name here indicated his death was stated via forums and social media. In my opinion it's okay to leave him here given that. Unless something comes up in those areas saying the announcement was wrong or something. That's the purpose of this thread, to catalogue deaths needing a strong source that have been at the least verifiably deemed deceased in the means we can't utilize. Rusted AutoParts 17:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello all. Jim Price is supposed to have died in Pasadena in February 2023. We have a James William Price born in July 1945 living in Pasadena on TruePeopleSearch. If he died more than one year ago I think he wouldn't be on TruePeopleSearch anymore. What did you think? --Danielvis08 (talk) 22:31, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Frankly, I would not know whether TruePeopleSearch is deemed to be a reliable source. What I do know is that it seemingly is not available to view by Europeans. I suspect that 'James William Price' is hardly a unique name, so we can not be certain if it is he. There were 'death notices' posted on social media and web forums (all not reliable) around the time of his demise. They may have all been bogus, and that is why I did not edit his article nor post his 'death' here. It seems to me that he had a sizeable contribution to rock/pop music in the 1970s, so it seems logical that his death would have attracted media attention, but these days mainstream media seem to focus elsewhere. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:32, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just to add a belated PS. here. If editors would care to take a look at the Jim Price article's editing history, you will see a few unsourced efforts, largely by IPs, trying to insert 'death details'. If this was purely vandalism, I would proffer that choosing a 78 year old to 'kill off', would gain considerably less kudos than reckoning Justin Beiber, Lady Gaga, or whoever is the latest pop sensation, had suddenly popped their clogs. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have hundreds of unlisted deaths on my profile page. I can't find time to add them all, so please have a look if you want to get your numbers up.Nukualofa (talk) 11:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Assisted suicide or euthanasia?

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@CommanderShepardX: I don't have the exclusive right to describe Röling's manner of death and neither do you. I made a bold edit, you reverted it, now we all discuss it. I think we all know where the two of us stand. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The source linked on the deaths page (barring the translation not being great) doesn't really stipulate the wording, and the second source used on his page is paywalled so I can't assess it there. Face value the two seem essentially the same thing, just comes down to method. So ultimately I would probably go with whichever way the source puts it. But like I said, can't even see if it's ever stated in the sources that this is the COD. Rusted AutoParts 23:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Technically speaking, assisted suicide is a self-administered euthanasia but aided directly by a third party, whereas plain euthanasia is always administered only by a third party, and not by the self in any way. Find out which of the two applies in this case and you find out which one to use. Ref (chew)(do) 00:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Non-notable and notable

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Dear Editors, I want to address recent concerns regarding my contributions to the Deaths in 2024 article. I understand there have been issues raised about the notability of some entries I added. I want to clarify that my intent was not to spam the page with non-notable entries but rather to contribute relevant information. I acknowledge that I may have difficulties understanding the concept of notability as it pertains to Wikipedia standards. I am actively seeking to improve my understanding and differentiate more clearly between what constitutes a notable entry and what does not. Moving forward, I will take greater care to ensure that my contributions meet the criteria of notability outlined by Wikipedia guidelines. I appreciate any guidance or feedback that can help me improve in this regard. Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to contributing positively to the community. Sincerely, FerasWebsite FerasWebsite (talk) 20:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for engaging - hopefully you saw my comments on your talk page. Easily the best way to establish the very slimmest of notability is to do a Google (or other engine) search of the name, and basically see how many mentions come up about the person from reliable sources. This cannot be obituary links alone - there must be some kind of fame or infamy, as highlighted by the links in the search results. If the person is from a non-English speaking country, an Inter Language Link (or ILL) is very desirable, as it indicates a notability in a foreign Wikipedia. In closing, I'd say remember this - "if in doubt, throw it out". If they ARE notable, there are many other very experienced editors who will make sure they get added. Thanks again. Ref (chew)(do) 21:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2024

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Please replace the TMZ citation for the 18 July death of Micheal Cline of Fandango with one of these, as these are the much more reputable sources:

  • Correal, Annie (July 18, 2024). "Founder of Fandango Dies After Plunge From Manhattan Hotel". The New York Times. Retrieved 18 July 2024.
  • Lenthang, Marlene (July 18, 2024). "Fandango Founder J. Michael Cline Dies of Apparent Suicide at New York City Luxury Hotel". NBC News. Retrieved 18 July 2024. 98.206.30.195 (talk) 20:25, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done - TMZ is not an unreliable or deprecated source. Edit requests should concentrate on valid whole additions to the list or urgent correction of incorrect information, not whether this or that reliable source is better or worse. Thanks. Ref (chew)(do) 20:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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