WikiEN-l December 2007

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25 Jul '09

At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cool_Wall we had a complete list of cars which appear on the BBC Top Gear "Cool Wall". I removed this as being almost certainly a violation of copyright. It is now being argued that reproducing the list in full does not violate copyright, because it is not published in the show's magazine or on the website and has been compiled by collating the lists from numerous shows. It is further asserted that compiling the list from these shows does not constitute original research, although there is no known reliable secondary source for any of the data, let alone the complete collated list Original research? You decide. Copyright? I think so, but what do I know? Fancruft? Ooooh, tricky :-) Guidance appreciated. Guy (JzG) -- http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JzG

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Wikipedia:Ethics
by luke brandt 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Just to let you guys know, prescriptive, descriptive and most importantly 'thoughtful' essays are welcomed at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ethics Best wishes to all Wikipedians for the new year

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Year articles
by Andrew Gray 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

Some time ago, we discussed the various articles on years, which are invariably bald timelines of births, deaths and events; the possibility of fleshing them out into prose was tossed around. I've just been told someone finally did one of them :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1345 with the old content at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1345_timeline Thoughts? -- - Andrew Gray andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk

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Google Knol: Move over Wikipedia?
by Utkarshraj Atmaram 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

"A knol on a particular topic is meant to be the first thing someone who searches for this topic for the first time will want to read." <http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/encouraging-people-to-contribute.html> The project is not collaborative like Wikipedia, but for many topics, there will be competing knols on the same subject. The goal is to cover all topics, from encyclopedic topics to how-to-fix-it instructions. The control over the article will remain with the author, who can also choose to display ads and get a substantial revenue share. Most probably, the license won't be a free one, but "Google will not ask for any exclusivity on any of this content and will make that content available to any other search engine." It's too early to say, but the success of Knol may spell extinction for projects like Citizendium: most "experts" would prefer to retain sole authorship of their articles and get paid for it. And of course, it may spell doom for Wikipedia as well. Knol will certainly provide a more authoritative, more reliable source of knowledge than Wikipedia: <http://www.google.com/images/blogs/knol_lg.png> -- Utkarshraj Atmaram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Utcursch

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Notability etymology and history (was Re: WP:EPISODE)
by Steve Bennett 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

On 12/31/07, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Remember that "notability" is a Wikipedia jargon word back-formed from > the use of "non-notable" on AFD to mean "I've never heard of it." Really? Steve

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Sockpuppets?
by Meg Ireland 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

Something just struck me as very odd with some edit patterns: User:WesleyDodds User:75pickup Are they one in the same person? I noticed they both just edited the Led Zeppelin II article, and looking back at their contributions I was surprised in noticing they edited Oasis and Primal Scream at almost the same time periods, for some months now. Then User:Indopug appears on the December 24th, I noticed very similar editing patterns as well. Led Zeppelin II, Stone Roses, The Smashing Pumpkins, Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Joy Division, clasifying every article B class... etc What gives? Megan

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Interesting fact
by Daniel R. Tobias 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:58:39 +0000, "Thomas Dalton" <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 26/12/2007, Nachman <nachman.chayal(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Additionally, it turns out that if intelligence employees have their names > > published on a site like Wikipedia (even without a connection to their > > position) they are dismissed or transferred to a public position (i.e . > > public relations). > > > > The quote was "Hello, we found your name on Wikipedia. You're the new CIA > > job fair representative." > > That would be an extremely stupid policy... so it's probably true. After all, the "intelligence" in their name doesn't refer to the sort that is measured by IQ tests. -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/

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New arbitrators named
by Ral315 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

Congratulations to the new arbitrators named, and to FloNight, whose term was extended by one year: Newyorkbrad -- 3-year term FT2 -- 3-year term FayssalF -- 3-year term Sam Blacketer -- 3-year term Deskana -- 3-year term Thebainer -- 1-year term http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-12-26/Arbitr… -- Sincerely, Ral315 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ral315

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What to do about messages/edits from the same user with multiple IP addresses?
by wikipediaman 02 Jan '08

02 Jan '08

Hi, Sorry if this has been asked before. I've looked everywhere I can think of on Wikipedia to find out what to do. On a particular contentious article I'm editing, there are 3 IP addresses editing the article on one side of the debate. After looking these IP's up on http://www.ip-adress.com/, 2 are from the same city and 1 is from a city 30 miles away. Thus, it sppears as though somebody is playing games and editing as though they are 3 different people (the city isn't a big city or anything so can't be by chance). Anyone know what I can do about this? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-to-do-about-messages-edits-from-the-same-user-wi… Sent from the English Wikipedia mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[WikiEn-L] Interesting fact
by Nachman 02 Jan '08

02 Jan '08

Some might find this interesting: Over the holidays, I spoke to an individual I know well and was told that US intelligence agencies keep a local copy of Wikipedia available for employees who are isolated from the Internet for security reasons. Apparently, its updated once a year. (Its separate from Intellipedia, which is used for sharing information classified up to TS). Additionally, it turns out that if intelligence employees have their names published on a site like Wikipedia (even without a connection to their position) they are dismissed or transferred to a public position (i.e . public relations). The quote was "Hello, we found your name on Wikipedia. You're the new CIA job fair representative." (posted using alternate e-mail)

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